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To think the term "rudeness" is outdated

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EclecticShock · 19/07/2012 20:53

Now that we live in a multicultural society with lots of different social rules. Do you think the term "rudeness" as in not aligning yourself with society values is outdated? I believe there needs to be more tolerance towards others and more emphasis on "getting along" rather than segregating.

Aibu?

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EclecticShock · 19/07/2012 22:22

My ethics and morales really revolve around what I believe to be best for society. Yes, everyone has their differing opinions but I guess what I am saying is I am not going to be offended if it only offends me personally. I will be offended if it offends others too. Does that make sense?

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LadyInDisguise · 19/07/2012 22:23

Don't want to depress you but if people were that tolerant, do you think we would have that many threads on here about disabled people/parking spaces etc?

EclecticShock · 19/07/2012 22:24

So if the comment/action is only applied to me I don't worry. If it is applied to a section of society as a whole and is detrimental to that group of people in a practical way, I will challenge it. I know detrimental can be subjective...

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pigletmania · 19/07/2012 22:27

or i am sorry but i dont shake hands would be fine

WithoutCaution · 19/07/2012 22:27

You're far better than me then. I can tolerate most things if they don't happen regularly or if it doesn't impact my ethical/moral beliefs

WithoutCaution · 19/07/2012 22:28

Piglet - As long as I'm not left with my hand out looking a bit dim them I'm fine Wink

WithoutCaution · 19/07/2012 22:29
  • Then not them
EclecticShock · 19/07/2012 22:29

I don't read those lady as I choose to believe those people are ignorant an intolerant to the extreme. It does depress me, my family have been on the receiving end of disability and race intolerance and its not pleasant and very damaging. Which is why i think if people extended tolerance to smaller things it might eventually build to the things they find most difficult. Hence my post about rudeness. As far as I'm aware rudeness has never damaged anyone long term, it's more a passing irritation.

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EclecticShock · 19/07/2012 22:31

Anyway, night all, enjoyed the debate.

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pigletmania · 19/07/2012 22:38

exactly dim, if you extend your hand to greet and someone does not shake hands due to their religion, a simple i dont shake hands would be fine, but give an alternative greeting like hello. Yes asking personal questions like how much you earn, and when are you going to have another one is rude if you do not knopw the person well, or are not familiar with them. I would only talk to my good friends about these quesions not ones that i do not know. we have different behaviours in various situations not one size fits all. So you assess the situation and act appropriately

Pendeen · 19/07/2012 23:38

I have to visit building sites on a regular basis.

Rudeness is a way of life on most of them.

YABU.

Accuracyrequired · 19/07/2012 23:58

goodnoight eclectic, I enjoyed talking to you on that other thread about india

Pendeen · 20/07/2012 00:03

Oh, and "... Now that we live in a multicultural society ..."

No.

We do not however you may.

Himalaya · 20/07/2012 06:56

Hi Eclectic

(I'm no politeness expert Grin)

But I think I agree with you in that rudeness/politeness/manners are becoming more principle based and less rules based (...except maybe on MN).

Society has become more casual and mixed in many ways and old fashioned manners (I think about "please may I leave the table", thankyou letters, children not speaking unless spoken to) which could also be quite intolerant about difference .e.g. Racist, homophobic - has given way to more live and let live attitudes and reciprocity.

On the whole I think this a good thing, when it works. I have had racism from the most formally "polite" people.

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