to live life on the edge by parking in P and T spaces

[CountvonViscount]

it was actually thrilling.

You must have been very restricted if you wouldn't even leave the buggy at the back of the car for 30 seconds! You must have barely been able to park anywhere.

Sorry I think that's excessive in my opinion. I do that all the time, as does every other parent I see in a car park!

So it's ok to bash bigger cars? (Bit of a sore subject in the Kellamity house tonight!)

Bash them with what? car seats?

If you can't get your children in and out in a normal space and people are constantly bashing your car, perhaps your car is too big. Or maybe you are shit at parking.
I have a bigger car though, no-one ever bashes it, and I can my hordes of children in and out easily.

Pickles - you might be happy leaving your buggy at the back of the car but I was not. Double buggies take up a lot of space and it only takes one nobhead not leaving enough room for an accident to happen. I didn't want to take that risk.

Car has been bashed when I've not been in pt spaces. Was just commenting that I'm sick of people hitting my car and not having the balls to leave their details tucked under the wiper!

I agree CockyPants

An accident could happen at the side though, you must have been terribly restricted as nine times out of ten I park in a normal space, no choice.

The pram tucked up by the boot is very safe, as safe as you can be, I'd someone drove into your boot you wouldn't be safe anyway?

That's a different issue really though cocky but very annoying I agree if no one leaves a note.

I love pt spaces.
And family loos. Thank you John Lewis! Great idea.

Family loos are great, I love the ones in John Lewis with the sofas in, I can relax on there for ages. They just need to install mini bars.

I think you've missed the point pickles. I used to put my buggy between the two cars in the parent and child spaces - where the doors open. No chance of any car hitting it there. The other option (in a normal space) was at the back of the car where cars are driving past. Might not be a huge risk I grant you, but not one I wanted to take.

Not really! Just think you were making life unnecessarily hard on yourself.

yousank Im glad youve posted what youve said as I have to disagree with pickles too. I NEVER leave one of my dts at the back of the car where I cant see him I dont care well obviously I do a bit if a car ran over an empty pushchair but with one of my dts inside whilst I was trying to get the other dt out its not even worth the risk. pickles life isnt that hard I just cram the pushchair or trolley as close to (my) car as poss so I can keep an eye on both dts. I dont mind doing this but it is very awkward and when the person opp in the p and t space with no dcs and loads of room is merrily unloading shopping whilst me and yousank etc are contorting into yoga positions its frustrating.

Well you must never leave the house then. I went to a big retail park yesterday and they had reduced the size of the p& t spaces to normal ones. I simply put the pram at the back if the car for about 15 seconds STILL within the white lines of the space. Sorry I think it's so ott refusing to do that. The only way a car would have hit the pram is if the car was totally out of control.

Do you not walk on paths near roads in case a car mounts the road ?

People are psychopaths over this issue.

Good grief Pickles - you don't want to let this go do you. If I could fit my double buggy within the lines of the space I probbly would have been ok about it. I didn't want to put my buggy at the back of the car though because generally it didn't fit within the space. I managed perfectly well through a combination of using P&T spaces and knowing car parks where I could park further away and be next to a walkway. I really don't understand why it bothers you so much. Maybe I was over cautious, but so what.

Good luck to you OP!!!! What a boring life you have, and such an attention seeking thread to write....about your boring kicks. Fill your boots I say, surely a bigger kick would be the disabled bays?.. Watch someone with a limp....or maybe even a wheelchair struggle whoooo hooo! Go on you know you want to ; o)

Doesn't sound thrilling. Just inconsiderate.

pickles if a car were to mount the pavement (and it does happpen) I would be able to move the pushchair out of the way hopefully quick enough. When the pushchair is parked out of my sight (it would also take me longer than 15 seconds to get other dt out of car) I wouldnt have time to get to it. And yes I actually leave the house every day. Which is how I have noticed and got pissed off at the misuse of p and t spaces. Agree with yousank whats wrong with being careful or over cautious? The op is wrong to park in a space put there to help others, wether anyone feels they 'need' them. I personally would not park in a p and t space without a child, park in a disabled space, park on yellow lines or double park or block shopping aisles with my pram deliberately etc etc. We should be more considerate. I believe this is the issue really not why mothers of babies find p and t spaces (designed for them!) easier to use. at you to show Im just saying its imo and really dont want a slanging match online!

I have my opinion. I think that there is cautious and there is massively ott.

I think that the spaces are a nice pleasant extra, not an essential, and people on here go to ridiculous lengths really to justify why they can't park anywhere else!

The fact is people CAN park in normal spaces.

They can and they do.

I can't actually believe that people say they have to go back home when there is no space, or, bash another car. I actually don't believe that happens.

i don't need a wide space for my kids, just for my fat bum. Can we have fat peoples car parking spaces please? preferably in the cake aisle?

All very well saying people with children should park at the back of the car park. At the moment I am doing this (pregnant bump). However, invariably when you return someone has parked so close that it is really hard to to get in car. Even so I still wouldn't use P and C spaces.

O and incidently if someone bashes your car there is no guarantee they will pay. Someone hit my car in a normal space with a witness and they are still trying to wriggle out of it.