To think this is exploitative more than it is shocking?

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A teen mother who was 12 when she had her first is saying how its the best thing she ever did because now she can go clubbing and wear size 6 clothes.

I'm wondering if she know going in how negatively she was going to be portrayed??

I actually feel a bit sorry for her.

I agree with you blisterpack

but she wasn't a teen mum as she gave birth at 12 so hadn't even entered her teens yet.
She was a child having a child and even now she still thinks like a child rather than a grown adult and mother of 2

I do actually feel very sorry for her,

SO do I lastnerve doesnt make her right though,

So in their eagerness to benefit bash YET AGAIN this fucking rag has ignored the fact that a law was actually broken back then for a child to be conceived in the first place. Good one Closer.
Cant wait to see London Feminists weekly tweets on this on Thursday!

She was pregnant at 12, gave birth at 13. Here is another one www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2123943/Daughter-Britains-youngest-mum-Jenny-Teague-gave-birth-12-wont-make-mistake.html. Similar story, but at least she has the sense to not want history to repeat itself.

i feel sorry for her kids who will probably end up in the same life circle that she is in.

Carer, a law was technically broken, but the boy was only 15 and it was consensual.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/1484476-Closer-magazines-benefit-bashing-story-features-a-carer

"Having sex at 12 is fine if you feel ready"

Oh right i'll bear that in mind when my daughter is 12 and her hormones are all over the place!! Of course its normal to wonder about sex at that age but to actually do it no way!! she doesnt seem to have grown much at all and sorry she's no size 6 !!

She wasn'tbritains youngest mum if she had the baby at 13. There was an 11 year old who was 12 when the baby was born.

Dd is 12. She's a child. Not mature enough to be in a sexual relationship.

So Jenny Teague's DD - who sounds much more mature than Amy Crowhurst - doesn't like telling people how young her mum is, but she's telling all the DM readers?

Oh dear.

I doubt very much whether Sasha Teague had much say in participating in the article.

I got pregnant with my son at 13 but I don't think he has ever felt embarrassed about how young I was when I had him. Tbh, I'm just his mum, and he sees me no differently than any of his mates see their mums.

Well, hopefully some other pregnant teen out there, or 13 year old with a newborn of her own, might read that and think 'I could make things better for myself, too: my life isnt ruined because I have a baby, there is hope.'

If that story gives them hope, they are pretty much fucked. You think thats a life to aspire too, an evicted drug user?

"she thinks being a size 6 and going clubing means she has some how made it in life."

Lol, this seems to be a popular misconception these days.

Aye that's a hope inspiring story

Getting evicted for having drug parties when your a mum of two and looking 45 when you are in fact 22.

Reach for the stars and do right by your kids right there :P

hang on.
Of course it is not the right thing to do, having children so young.
But in this 'article' that is doing its best to portray her in a sterotypical, poor light,
She is saying that she wants to complete her education and get a job.

She has managed to keep care of her children despite being a child when she had them, they are both by the same father and are well looked after.

There are plenty of older women with better educations doing far worse than she is.

Of course the comments about clubbing and wearing size 6 are immature, she is immature.

Would we all prefer a story of woe and degradation?

This is one of the reasons we have a benefits system, to protect young girls who make stupid mistakes. It has housed her and allowed her children to stay in her care and is educating her so she can support her family.

Definite case of exploitation. It's the mail...

Mrsdevere, can't imagine much more of a take of woe and degradation.

Poor poor kids, all of them!! Low expectations, no parental care or concern, sordid, sad.

If our so called benefits culture supports or worse encourages this child abuse then what a society we have become.

What do you mean?
Because she doesnt want to go to university?

What do you mean no parental care or concern?
How do you come to that conclusion? Well fed, well dressed, loved and cared for?
Her ambitions my not be your ambitions but that doesnt make her unambitious?

You cannto imagine much more woe and degradation? Are you serious?

How about her children in care, her on the game, her not studying and with no inention of every getting a job, her homeless, her with another five kids, her miserable and on drugs grieving for the loss of her children to the state?

Young mother, in a home with two cared for kids, studying and thinking ahead how is that woe and degradation?

I visit families who live in one room. They have no recourse to public funds and they have children who will die young from lack of adequate care.

I cannot bring myself to wring my hands over a young woman who has made an adequate life for herself and her children despite having children before she should have.

No I wasn't talking about the child who was raped!! Sorry for me if a 12 year old is pregnant its rape! She is a child who? Is incapable of consent.

I was talking about HER mother who presumably is an adult??

I used to be a district nurse in inner city brum and also saw jaw dropping neglect, cruelty and sadness.

To me a 12 year old child getting pregnant is in no way a good news story.

You do not know she was raped.
Her boyfriend was 15. It would not be classed as sexual abuse. The age difference is not big enough.

This story is not about the 12 year old pregnant girl.
It is about a young woman who has made a life for herself and her children despite her difficult childhood.

Do we look at other people who have achieved small succeses in the same way? Dismiss where they have got to because of where they have come from.

As much as I despair at the idea of a 12 year old having sex you cannot state that she was incapable of consent, not legally. She was not legally raped either.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the father was also a child.

If you used to be a district nurse you will be familiar with Gillick and Fraser.

I still think the most shocking thing is her attitude to the whole thing. That it's fine if her own child does the same etc etc. It's not like she's got to this point and said to herself "yes I made mistakes but I've made the best of it and will try to dissuade my kids from doing the same things" kids having kids isn't right.

Gillick and Frazier, yes but she's not 16? She's 12! What next it's ok for a 10 year old as she is ' deemed capable if giving consent'?

Rape isn't just about a stranger in a dark alley it's also the fact that a child, 12 is a child, has had sex?? The father is 15, sadly also a child.

When did we as a society deem it ' acceptable' for children to have sex.

Is it ok for ' working class' or 'chav' class girls to NOT want to aspire to go to university or have a career.