To think this is exploitative more than it is shocking?

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A teen mother who was 12 when she had her first is saying how its the best thing she ever did because now she can go clubbing and wear size 6 clothes.

I'm wondering if she know going in how negatively she was going to be portrayed??

I actually feel a bit sorry for her.

Daily Mail and Closer should be ashamed of themselves.

Imagine the fake relationship the journalist created with this poor, abused child/woman in order to get a story that would have us linking and gossiping.

This is Jeremy Kyle for the twittering classes.

Wasn't there a similar story a while back, whee
it later transpired that the 12 year old had been abused by a family member? At the time the little girl was splashed all over the papers as a symbol of all that is wrong with Britain. In reality she was too frightened to admit who the abuser was.

Not to mention that any parent who allows a 12 year old to feature in the paper over something like this would have to be inadequate.

Horribly exploitative. The poor girl has such a warped view that she seems to view 22 year old mothers as older; when she refers to girls of 22 getting fat.

Just sad sad sad and as a mum of a 12 year old makes me fucking angry!!

Twitteringclassgossip would be an awesome username

Twitteringclassgossip would be an awesome username

Just hope on mumsnet we don't actually end up supporting children having sex and ch

Child exploitation. Because however you dress it up as choice blah blah blah it's really not, it's abuse.

Just to be clear it WAS rape. It was statutory rape because she is deemed incapable of giving consent. The law presumes that when a girl is under 13 she is not mature enough to consent to sex. So even if a 12-year-old girl willingly has intercourse, as far as the law is concerned, she has not "consented" to it because legally she is not able to. From the BBC link I included earlier. Even though he was 15, he did rape her. He is over the criminal age of responsibility. 99/100 they don't prosecute because it is not in the public interest. However, don't be misled, it is rape.

I do think its such a worrying issue, particularly when you move up a year and look at 13 year olds, there is little difference in their behaviour and that of a 12 year old, yet its quite (an I'm not saying normal) common for this to be an age where you become sexually active.

I had sex at 13 and its not something I've regretted but I know many people who have. I don't know when would be the average age for women to lose their virginity in the UK but can only assume its not that far off 12, which means its a situation many girls in our society could easily find themselves in.

Why do teenage mums always call their babies names like Destiny and Alfie?

CaNiMa.

What a stupid comment.

really a conversation about a child having a baby and all somebody can comment on their names

Who said it was ok for to have sex?
But if she went to the doctor to for contraception Gillick would be applied.
And she wasn't raped.
You can say it as much as you like and don't bother to quote rape myths at me because I am painfully aware of the thank you.

And as for the 'it's ok for chavvy girls' stuff

This girl DOES have ambition. She wants to finish her gcses and go into care work.
How dare people dismiss that as having no ambition.
How bloody handwringingly chattering class.

It was a tragedy when she had that baby at 12. She should not have been having sex.
But
She has managed to make a life for herself And her kids and has plans for her future including working.
Just not good enough though is it?

lots of posters not reading the article or my posts properly.
Too busy being titillated by broken Britain.

Her attitude is disgusting. She's thinks what she's done is fine because society has supported her choices. Doesn't see the issue in having sex and babies at 12 and another a couple of years later. So no, whatever she's doing now isn't good enough if her attitude is such.

Don't dismiss other people's views because you don't agree with them mrsdevere.

A child under the age of 13 cannot legally consent to sex and therefore if the person having sex with them (consensually or otherwise) were charged, they would be charged with rape.

Between 13 and 16, if it were consensual, the charge would be "Sexual activity with a child". If the two parties were of a similar age, no charges would be brought (this is official guidance).

Just for clarification.

She ain't a size 6, no bleddy way.

she says she wants to go to college and get qualifications but in the 10 years since she has left school she hasn't as she has been to busy getting pregnant again and having drug parties.
When she has got these qualifications and a job then i might think differently but so far it is all pie in the sky and she is just yet another stupid young girl who is choosing a life on benefits over taking some responsiblity for looking after her own children.

'Is it ok for ' working class' or 'chav' class girls to NOT want to aspire to go to university or have a career.'

Is it ok for 'middle class' or 'posh' girls to NOT want to aspire to go to university or have a career?

In the DM world yes, because a rich daddy or husband pays the bills and the house

Agree with MrsDeVere.
But then that's exactly what the DM does so well isn't it - gets everyone outraged!

I didn't read this article thinking she's advocating her children have sex at 12. But i think she is saying if they have children young it doesn't have to destroy their lives. Sounds like she's been a pain in the arse in the past yes. Hopefully she will learn from it and grow up.
No one in their right mind would think it's acceptable to have a kid at 12 but it happens. Sadly.

Her kids look happy and well cared for but shit mags and papers don't focus on anything like that.

Personally I never read any papers daily mail or otherwise.

I am amazed that some ops think its NOT rape. It is in this country anyway as some posters have clarified.

It's also very strange that somehow anyone who is outraged by this story is somehow a daily mail chattering class nut job.

Wasn't the law changed in 2003 to include being unable to consent under 13? If so would it even apply in this case?

Luckily they use discretion when deciding who to prosecute

Statutory Rape is an American term - it is not legally recognised in the UK

"Amy tells Closer she wouldn't mind if her own daughter became a teen mother. She said: 'Having sex at 12 is fine if you feel ready and aren?t pressured. I wouldn?t encourage Destiny to plan pregnancy at 12, but if she did have a baby I?d be happy ? it?d be fun being a gran at 27!'"

That's not advocating children having children and child sex? Ok.

No one is saying she is a role model.
I am questioning the outrage at her life now not that she had a baby so young.

If the boy was any older I would be calling it rape too shall we stop trying to paint me as a rape apologist just because I am disagreeing with you

Unless there was a degree of force, coercion or grooming this would not be treated as rape.
She chose to have sex for all the wrong reasons, it was wrong, it shouldn't have happened.
But all this fake concern so you can have a good old bitch about a teenage mum is irritating.

The total dismissal of her plans to be a care worker is very telling.

Only a degree in classics or fine art would allow her to be lifted up from the sewer in which she belongs I suppose.

You want her punished yet you bang on about rape?
If she was raped as you say where is the concern for the child victim? All I can see is a thinly veiled attack on teenage mothers.

Supporting her lifestyle choices? So she chose to be pred did she?
Come on, let's make our mind up?
Do we despise her or pity her?

'be raped'