to think we should be able to choose what our kids eat for lunch?

[Cuddler]

My friends son is starting school in September and she has been given a whole list of things he isn't allowed in his lunch box.Not just for allergy reasons,i understand those,but things like,no cheese sandwiches,as thats dairy and carbs together,and no ham as its processed,no yogurts if they have sweeteners in them.No tropical fruits,only berries,apples,pears and peaches,they are better for concentration.no white bread.No pasteurized juice.

I'm not saying that the above isn't true,my kids don't have sugary yogurts or white bread sandwiches,BUT i would like to think they could have them if they wanted to,and i do think that this is going about things in the wrong way?In the grand scheme of things,a cheese sandwich,a frube,a banana and some apple juice isn't that bad is it?I mean it could be worse?

I think schools should butt out of the lunchboxes.

I would (and have, actually) tell them to fuck off. I'll follow rules due to allergies and no sweets or fizzy drinks is fine, other than that I will feed my child what I decide, and they can keep their healthy eating nonsense to themselves.

My DS is allergic to kiwi, by the way. And pineapple.

Its just a state school,but it is in Brighton!lol TBH i can see the points of the list,a white bread cheese sandwich on its own isnt really the best lunch but i think it could be much much worse!And i just dont think its really the school business,within reason.

Bonkers.
Absolutely Bonkers.

And if it is true, I wonder if it's actually legal (allergies aside)? Many kids would starve at lunch. My DGC for one.

My children's old school used to issue lists like this, the banned list kept on getting bigger and bigger. We weren't allowed cheese either (fat content), Marmite (salt content), chocolate, crisps, biscuits, flapjacks, homemade cakes (sugar) yogurts (sugar), white bread, juice (only allowed water)

Now, they issueguidelines but the only things that are catagoricially banned are peanuts (allergy) proper chocolate bars (Penguins, Wagon Wheels, etc are OK, just no Mars Bars or Dairy Milk type stuff) and fizzy drinks

Id be asking for a list of the school dinner options, see if they are as intense.

What sortof sarnie will a child eat if not cheese or ham?

are these things banned from the school meals too? if not . . . ignore?

I can't actually believe cheese/ham sandwiches, yoghurts and tropical fruits are banned. Who says other fruits make you concentrate better. So she should send them with chocolate spread, jam, lemon curd and honey sandwiches - much better?!

I would be making huge complaints.

I am always a bit miffed about the nut ban as well, I completely understand the seriousness of a nut allergy but even some cereal bars are banned! Also my DS had his coconut yoghurt banned once! Also a nursery I know said that the children were not allowed to have anything with nuts in for breakfast before coming into nursery in case they had a bit on their face.

My DCs eat very healthily but that may include a cheese or ham sandwich, pineapple or mango!

I'd certainly challenge it, with the school and then the council - I mean, honestly, "no tropical fruits" - so, no bananas then? The one fruit that many children willingly eat, and the favourite of sports people, is not acceptable for schoolchildren?

No pasteurised juice - so you have to buy fresh juice, and keep it in a warm lunchbox, rather than the kind that has been treated to keep better, using the process they use on all the milk we buy?

Clearly a list written without any actual understanding of the real issues.

when I see things like this I am glad my dd goes to an sn school , none of this stupid stuff there.

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My son is autistic too, he's taken cheese sandwiches to school every day of his school life, he's going into Upper sixth after the holidays!

Other than that, this list is bloody nonsense and the school have no right to be so dictatorial.

Sorry, that sounded flippant about the nut allergy, I understand the ban but still think some places go OTT.

Are kiwi and pineapple banned from your school Penis??

There is nothing wrong with white bread BTW - it contains more calcium than brown bread. A white bread cheese sandwich is fine as no child just has one sandwich anyway!

What's supposed to be the problem with pasteurisation?

It seems to be pretty healthy:

www.livestrong.com/article/543480-does-pasteurized-juice-have-nutrients/

WTF?

Since when has pasteurising jusice been bad, even innocent smoothies and tropicana with all there fancy marketing as being 'fresh' not from concentrate are pasteurised. Nobody can be suggesting you squeeze your own juice in the morning and then send it in for lunch (by which time it has seperated and gone brown?)

Er, what's the science that says you can't have dairy and carbs? Utterly idiotic. (There was once a thing called the Hay diet that said you couldn't mix protein and carbs, but that wasn't grounded in any scientific evidence either.)

And since when were pears, apples etc better for concentration than, say, bananas and pineapples? What idiot thought this up?

I get the nut ban - having known an adult who was hospitalised from the tiniest contact with peanuts, I know how scarily bad it can be. But other allergies aren't normally triggered by being in the same room as a food, are they?

No cheese sandwiches as it's dairy and carbs?? I'm struggling to believe that tbh.

I think a lot of it is to do with blood sugar levels etc.I actually saw a nutritionist after having ds1 and a lot of the things she said were on that list,basically don't eat anything white,sweet and fluffy,eat dark fibrous things,so instead of white bread,rye bread,instead of normal potatoes,sweet potatoes or butternut squash etc.Its all quite sensible BUT i am not a 4 yr old child,and i know that lots of children wont eat stuff like that,and like i said before,in the grand scheme of things,when we hear some kids are actually starving and going to bed hungry,is a cheese sandwich that bad?And should it be anyones choice but the parents?

"I would (and have, actually) tell them to fuck off. I'll follow rules due to allergies and no sweets or fizzy drinks is fine, other than that I will feed my child what I decide, and they can keep their healthy eating nonsense to themselves."

You and me both Penis. (And I too have a DC who's allergic to pineapple).

"Not all ham is processed"

Of course all ham is processed.

The rare salted pig is an endangered species, and it is not permitted to kill them for sport or food.

Can i just say it didnt say you cant eat dairy and carbs,the way i read it was that a cheese sandwich on white bread isnt balanced enough.I dont think they have just banned carbs and dairy completley.If they have then i expect there would be uproar!

Are you sure that wires haven't been crossed here? It all sounds very unlikely.

AThingInYourLife -thats what i thought!

What is this obsession with feeding children like an adult? They need different things to an adult and burn a lot of the fatty stuff off.