To think the police are twats

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It's the second time now, they've done major damage to my car by arresting someone up against it. The first time i was sat in the vehicle and heavily pregnant. Not that they knew this of course. I know they have to arrest people and these things happen. The problem i have is the first time, if i hadn't of been sat in my car at the time, i wouldn't of known how the damage had occured. Also the damage caused to my car last night, our next door neighbour text us, otherwise we'd of thought it was vandals.

AIBU, to think that if police damage your property they should just leave a note to say contact the police station?

I've now got to faff around to sort this out today and i've got to cancel my plans because the car is undrivable, the wing mirror is fucked, i'm not happy.

Finally hiding the thread as I can't be arsed justifying myself to people who have made up their mind based on their own experience
fine, don't look. but if people experience the police being vile, they are going to think the police are vile, and they will have good reason for thinking so.

I do not hate the police, I have NEVER heard anybody say they do. It realy isa minority who do say they hate/dislike the police. You keep us safe. Y9u are very brave, what we do without them?

lovebunny you are missing the point I am trying to make that you are generalising. Yes in the experiences you have had you have been treated badly by the police OFFICERS who dealt with that incident.

That does not mean the police as a whole are twats.

I am back to the thread to pray for Ailidh but carry on with your hatred

ohdearnigel I have phoned 101 and been given an address to write to. The reason i'm saying they should leave a card is because if it wasn't for my neighbours witnessing the arrest and damage occurring, I would of had no idea it was the police and blamed vandals for it

lovebunny yes, the police are complete twats because they don't have enough windows in their buildings. Did you consider the fact that the door may have been closed for your safety?
This is just getting silly!

That's pants about the windows. No surprise though. Most of our desks are from the 70's. I don't think it was a conspiracy.

can i just add that every single one who is related to me are not the cunt type and they dissaprove of the cunt type,there the nice type

To say the whole force are twats is ridiculous though. Did you think they were twats during riots or student protests?Or only when it is your property?

I have never committed a crime.

I have been treated like shit by three different police forces. I have only one positive experience of a police officer. I was so shocked I wrote to the chief constable.

In my experience they are twats. Only twats would have kettled school children and force a child with a broken ankle to stand.

You are probably going to say that when I'm in trouble the first people I would call are the police. Yes I would. But would they respond? Probably not. They didn't when I was scared witless by someone trying to break my door down to, "effin t**t" me.Well they did respond eventually. I made two 999 calls between 6pm and 6.30pm. They phoned me back at 9am.

Lovebunny - yes i am paranoid That's why i bothered to read about my rights when i've never been in trouble with the Police. I always am never sure if people are being sarcastic to me or are serious; sorry... (it's not easy feeling like that all the time).

My sister had to call the police for my Mum when a man was in Mum's old block of flats trying get into the flat owned by a drug dealer who lived next door to my Mum's tiny studio flat. It was terrifying for her because the dealer's door was literally adjacent to hers; & Mum was scared he would try to kick her door in next.
The police came immediately & were great - they got the man out of the block of flats but couldn't arrest him because he was putting on a very good 'innocent' act & pretended he was staying at the dealer's flat but had forgot his key.
So they had to let him go - but apologised to my Mum because they guessed it was an act; but there just wasn't any evidence to arrest the man.

The first ever job that my friend's brother had to attend was a house where a woman had battered & stabbed her elderly parents to death; then stabbed & injured herself. He couldn't talk about it but it disturbed him very much obviously.
The other policeman i know was distressed by a particular rape case that he dealt with - again he couldn't talk about it, but his girlfriend said he didn't even like her going out for a while after that.
Then there are the gruesome, tragic traffic accidents that they attend - where the victims are often young men & women like themselves.
& the domestic violence cases where they put their lives at risk arresting the same men again & again; only for the wife / girlfriend to refuse to give evidence (even when they've been stabbed)...

The job is very frustrating as there are too many cases where they know that people are guilty but there just is not the evidence to prosecute.
They also come to the hospital where i work on an almost daily basis - as we have 30 wards with some very violent patients & visitors, but no permanent security guards due to cuts.
In the instances where they are dealing with dementia patients for example - i can honestly say that they are very sensitive to the patients' needs - i've never seen them use (or want to use) excessive force in those circumstances.

I've heard negative stories from friends / acquaintances; some police have their faults - but so do people in lots of professions - jobs with uniforms (including nursing, the armed forces etc etc) will always attract some people who are on a power trip.

But i have no personal reason to say anything negative about the police - so far my experiences & family's experiences have been good... & who knows, i may need to call them on my next shift.... (hope not though because it's upsetting for everyone involved when patients become acutely confused; then scared & aggressive as a result - they usually are mortified when they recover).

^lovebunny yes, the police are complete twats because they don't have enough windows in their buildings. Did you consider the fact that the door may have been closed for your safety?
This is just getting silly!^

excuse me? they falsely imprisoned a woman and child - and i should have made a lot more fuss than i did!
the door wasn't 'closed for my safety' - it was closed so that i would be afraid and so that my child would be afraid, too.
wake up.

Well, if we started treating all calls with suspicion and decided we wouldn't be investigating because it sounded like a load of old bollocks we'd soon be criticised for that too

Even though you've already shown them your pasport to prove you were not in the country at the time and therefore could not have done it.

And you have spoken to my line manager who has told you the person complianing has been sacked because of the vendetta against the person you are arresting.

Then, before interview you tell the arrested person that if they admit to the 'crime' you will 'let them off with a caution', otherwise you will have to spend time in custody and raid your employer's premisis.

Oh and then when you are taking fingerprints you have to torture the arrested person because they have arthritis in their hands and can't straighten their fingers.

And when a complaint is made, suddenly all the CCTV isn't working. Even though the force claims it has the most advanced CCTV system in the country.

Oh and then you say the CPS decided not to prosecute, but the CPS have actually not been contacted at all.

Oh and then you take the time to tell the person arrested that if there is another complaint you WILL be arrested.

Vicar - don'r hife this thread. I've seen other posts from you. You are the kind of person we need to recruit more of.

As you can see from the posts not everyone is like you. A lot of people have negative experiences, a lot of police are thugs, you are not. Please show this thred to your colleagues.

When I see a police uniform, I have, on two seperate occasions had panic attacks. For a long time I would turn off the road if I saw a police car. If I see you in uniform I may react in the same way, not because you are a bad person, but because I am still on antidepressants, and still struggling to recover.

"when we got there, we were put in a room without windows, and the door was closed. the door could not be opened from the inside. we were left there for some time" Ok, that sucks if its true and I'm sure you don't completely know their reasoning. Still, you were not "falsely imprisoned" were you? really?

its true.
and they do it because they can, because they're bullies.
and yes, if you're in and you can't get out, for no reason, that's a false imprisonment.
believe, don't believe. up to you. !

Lovebunny: I'm sorry but that its paranoia on your behalf! When I was twelve ish I had to report an assault at the police station. As soon as I arrived they put me and mum into one of those rooms alone! Yes it is quite scary and even twenty minutes in there alone is enough to feel like hours, but for goodness sake it's not as if they have anywhere else usually! If they hadn't have put you in there to wait I bet you'd complain that they left you at the front of the station, where all of the complaints were coming in and where anybody could walk in. and of course those doors lock from the inside, they're used to keep criminals in 90% of the time.
I'll also add that somebody tried to abduct me when I was younger, about right possibly, the police were also fantastic then and also put me in one if those rooms with my mum and sister whilst we waited to talk to an officer and sketch artist they had to call in from forty our so miles away!

About eight not about right

Lovebunny - I haven't looked through all 166 messages so you may have already explained this but why did the police want to falsely imprison you and your daughter? Why did they need to make you afraid?
You seem to have come into contact with the police an awful lot. Do you live in a rough area?

For what it's worth police officers are just normal people doing a difficult job under increasingly difficult conditions.

The Inspectorate of Constabulary has recently said that several forces are being hit by government cutbacks to the extent that they will not be able to function properly. This is unlikely to lead to improved 'customer care'.

Also the head of G4 thinks his company will be providing a significant level of policing services within five years. I doubt that will be a step forward in 'customer care' either.

Well, if this thread has taught me nothing else it haas taught me:
A I am a twat. As is my Dh, the majority of my friends, vicar, sharon and other MNers
B not only are we all twats, we are thick and robotic to boot
C I enjoy nothing more than a bit of rough and tumble with innocent members of the public and lock them up for no good reason - probably because I'm institutionally racist/sexist/whateverist
D my friend that was on the brink of death when a mysogynistic detainee strangled her with his bare hands is also a twat and was only saved when another power hungry twat pulled the poor, unfairly treated convicted murderer off her

Good times for the police on this thread.

And I forgot
E my dh beats me - cos all coppers are wifebeaters

Lovebunny, I just don't believe you. There is no police officer in the Uk that would suggest you deal with low level ASB by "getting a gun" as you claimed yesterday.

^Lovebunny - I haven't looked through all 166 messages so you may have already explained this but why did the police want to falsely imprison you and your daughter? Why did they need to make you afraid?
You seem to have come into contact with the police an awful lot. Do you live in a rough area?^

what a load of rubbish. i've lived long, that's why i've had a lot of contact - plenty of years between. no, i don't live in a particularly rough area. and they didn't need... they asked me to go in to make a statement about something i'd heard (to do them a favour, in fact) and i took my child with me because i couldn't leave her in the house alone.

OhDearNigel - The vast majority of posters on here have been very supportive of the police. Some posters have gone even further then that and told those on here with negative experiences that they must either be dodgy or lying.

So I posted some examples where the police clearly were at fault and they were roundly ignored.

I work in public service profession, sadly there are plenty of bad apples in it, but I'll admit that and discuss it, whereas the police on this thread seem very unwilling to do the same.

Argh, yet again the iPhone prevails. MORE shite! FGS!

Lovebunny - how long have you lived!!! I'm surprised all your contact with the police is just because you are old.
You say the police falsely imprisoned you when you were doing them a favour? I still don't understand. Why do you think they did it? What did they stand to gain from bullying you at that time? Why didn't you complain?

lovebunny I am not calling you a liar I'm not even implying I think your a liar I have apsolutly no doubt that you were taken to a room to give a statement that you had to wait awhile and you didn't enjoy the experance and you had your child with you. Where exactly did you want them to make you wait? Did it occur to you that it's not really ok for members of the public to be able to wander around in police stations?

Perhaps your complaint should have been regarding there time management and you not enjoying the experance and your child got destressed because you projected your fear onto her,after all there is apsolutly nothing frightoning about being in a office room with a calm and rational parent I understand that is no where near as dramatic as your version but seriously, come on you are a grown up perhaps you should remember that.