To wish sectarian parades (all kinds) were banned in Scotland

[Meikyo]

Apart from the stirring up of old hatreds based on battles hundreds of years ago, there is the general disruption to the daily lives of the general public when traffic is stopped (often without warning, for up to 30 minutes or more). There is also the not inconsiderable cost to the tax payer of providing policing for these parades and their followers.

I;m not out for blood - I just don't see how the Council can justify using council tax money, police resources, etc to allow 20,000 people to descend on my home town. I would still have the same opinion if it was the Templar Knights, muslims, proddies, catholics, or fecking aliens who wanted to march and fuck up a whole town centre for 3 hours

I am not out for anybodies blood orange marches around july are a PITA and causes distruption and usually ends up with pissed people in the pubs and fighting about frigging football and how bloody Loyal they are,

Thanks for the time redlac dd will be in work before it starts ,

redlac - thanks for the link. I really had no idea that this was about to happen before I read this thread. Evacuation it is.... Doune show is on so that'll be us I think.

Hope the rain stops so that we can get a bit of a day out. But then again, hope the blinking marchers get thoroughly soaked!

Why is there such a big march, not on the actual 12th redlac? Im in NI and that would be the amount walking the Belfast 12th.

the marches are usually co ordinated all over so the same marches and bands travel most of july up to the 12th there was a March in ayrshire at the weekend and the pipbands would have travelled to that ,

cocolepew - have no idea. But have just read the anticipated 10,000 marches plus 10,000 followers on council and police websites. Maybe they are over-estimating to make a point or to scare the locals away for the day?? Also, it's not a regular Stirling thing - I just read that it's the first big march here for 14 years.

OH really Brawhen I didnt realise it has been so long

The was the grand master person saying 14 yrs since their last big march here. Maybe other groups have held them in between? It's the first one I remember - we've been living here 6 yrs ish

Blimey its a lot if its true. The pre12th ones in my town are in the evening so dont really distrupt anything, plus the town center is seperate from any residential areas.

On the actual 12th (the only one I go out to see) its kept pretty respectable to start! Theres nobody allowed to follow the bands/orangemen.

Coming back from the field is another matter .

Somewherewest, I was clear in the original post that all kinds of sectarian parades are a pain, not just singling out Orange parades. I'd like to see them banned from the streets, but happy for them to pay to march for 3 hours round Hampden Park stadium - inside, not on the streets nearby that is!

we had a smallish march here a few years ago but it couldnt go past the catholic church it had to go round the villages ,

I'm another one not out for "blood". My point is, I'm not in Northern Ireland. I'm not interested in this shite, and I know that I am not alone in this, Keep it over there. I don't particularly see the need for a Parades Commission here. It may be different in the west of Scotland, but certainly here, in the east the only issue I have ever been aware of is the general objection to these pigeon breasted jokes. We don't have "other sides" or "rival marches". Just the request to march on the Queen's highway by these bigoted idiots.

well we are talking about orange parades because it is july so marching season and is relevant to us ATM not as if we are singiling (sp) them out,

And Joolyjoolyjoo You have summed it up perfectly

i loved my little house at the other end of the English town where i live, except on the day the marchers came to town

ever had the 'pleasure' of a marching band and in particular the bass drummer stand next to your car banging it so hard that it made your kids cry because you had a green football badge sticker on your car window?

i closed all the windows and curtains to try to block out the noise, and then later that day found my car had been spat upon.

in the name of 'tradition'

These marches are just for a certain tiny minority of society to deliverately antagonise another section of society under the guise of upholding a tradition. The people who march are rarely from the area of the march and usually are bussed in into on side of the village or town marhc through playing their sectarian music then meet up with their buses and head off to the next village to do the same again. Their music is ofensive and akin to a group of EDL spending their evening busing around Tower Hamlets then on to Peckham Brixton etc singing white power songs in Nazi uniforms and the police closing the roads to aid the EDL in their hatred. That is not acceptable and neither should these marches especially when the majority of Scotland are actually descended from the Hibernian tribes which are of course from Irish ancestry.

The weird thing is if that Hibernian ancestry had a skin tone with it, lets say green for argument, the majority of those sectarian marchers would have that skin tone themselves which they find to be so offensive to their fake facist views.