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To feel upset to discover that "friend" supports the BNP :(

119 replies

Jinsei · 29/06/2012 21:30

Not a close friend, but this is someone who has been to my house, accepted my hospitality etc. DH is Asian and dd is mixed race. I am Shock to know that she holds these views and upset to think that she has held these views through all of our "friendly" conversations.

I'm not going to say anything to her, will just quietly edit her out of our lives. But it makes me :( that seemingly "nice" people can buy into such crap.

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JosephineCD · 29/06/2012 23:58

Really, Jospehine? You think this is just about politics?
Yes. What else is it about?

Demonizing people for their political beliefs is wrong, whatever those beliefs are. It achieves nothing. Look at McCarthyism in the US. What did that achieve?

Devora · 29/06/2012 23:59

Don't be daft, Josephine - how can I be friends with a racist? Someone who wishes me and my children harm, who would see us deported or oppressed? I am the granddaughter, daughter and partner of foreign immigrants. I lost family in the Holocaust. I have a black child. So yes, I am not going to sit over the Battenberg with a neo-Nazi. Not everybody can afford the luxury of a racist mate.

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 00:01

Fuck all to do with politics - the BNP are not a serious political party for a start.

Jinsei · 30/06/2012 00:01

But that's the thing, shelly, she's not at all "thick" in the traditional sense of the word. Though clearly something is lacking...

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JosephineCD · 30/06/2012 00:01

Is your friend a Neo-Nazi? Do they wish you and your children harm?

Jinsei · 30/06/2012 00:02

She supports the BNP Josephine. Need I say more?

They don't think children like my dd should exist.

Oh, and she's not my friend any more.

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TheSecondComing · 30/06/2012 00:03

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Mrsjay · 30/06/2012 00:04

her friend hates all people who are not the same as her is that not enough

JosephineCD · 30/06/2012 00:08

her friend hates all people who are not the same as her is that not enough
Does she?

Oh josephime cqn't you just fuck off? Are you daft punk?
No, because the premise of this thread is stupid. Voting BNP doesn't make someone an "evil neo-nazi who wants to kill black people".If you're choosing friends on the basis of their politics, then you're an idiot. I've got friends who are as different as can be politically from me and we get on just fine.

Devora · 30/06/2012 00:12

I think it's important to be broad-minded in your friendships. I also believe that some attributes make it impossible for me to be friends with someone. Being a racist. Using prostitutes. Being cruel to children (or indeed anyone, for that matter). Hitting or bullying other people.

Jinsei · 30/06/2012 00:13

I'd rather be an idiot than a racist. FWIW.

And my friendships are not so shallow that values are irrelevant. I can "get on" with anyone, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I like or respect them.

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JosephineCD · 30/06/2012 00:16

If someone was coming out with racist stuff, saying that they hated black people and thought they should all be deported or something similar, that's one thing, and I can see why you'd end a friendship over it. But I don't think merely voting BNP makes someone a "racist neo Nazi". I agree with a lot of what the BNP say but they have too many thick racist types (skinheads etc) associated with them for me to vote for them. I am going to vote UKIP this week. Does that make me a bad person?

Devora · 30/06/2012 00:18

Voting UKIP doesn't make you a bad person (just one with an inadequate political analysis Grin). Voting BNP, however, does.

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 00:20

Voting UKIP doesn't make you a bad person. It probably means you're not really ever going to be my best buddy though.

Voting BNP makes you a racist and thus a bad person.

Mrsjay · 30/06/2012 00:23

the leader of the Bnp university educated believes that mixing blood is wrong and that white people will be wiped out if we do not stop mixbreeding , I dont blame the Op from not being friends with a person who believes these 'politics'

abody · 30/06/2012 00:23

Josephine - What does 'anti-multiculturalism' mean? I kind of agree that you shouldn't 'demonise' people for their beliefs, but you should definitely question them & try to change them if they're offensive & dangerous (like 'anti-multiculturalism'?!)

Jinsei · 30/06/2012 00:23

I won't comment on whether you are a bad person, but from what you've said, it's clear that you and I could never be friends. Wink

You are, of course, entitled to your opinions. Likewise, I am entitled to mine. It is my view that voting BNP (or indeed just supporting the BNP) is a sign that someone is morally bereft. At best, giving them all the benefit of the doubt, I suppose you could argue that they were severely lacking in intelligence. But as far as my ex-friend is concerned, this is not the case, so I can only conclude that she lacks any sort of moral compass. Call me stupid if you like, but I don't have room in my life for people like that.

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ravenAK · 30/06/2012 00:24

Seriously JosephineCD?

You genuinely believe that voting BNP is just a minor difference of political opinion. which the OP should just shrug off?

The BNP disapprove of her dd's existence. They think that it's a 'matter of evolutionary biology' for people to choose partners from their own race.

here

It's a bit more bloody fundamental than debating whether Nick Clegg is a completely useless cock or whether he might come in handy to put Michael Gove back on his arsewhere he belongs, don't you think?

megabored · 30/06/2012 00:29

Opposing emigration and supporting bnp are separate things. I think you may find that a lit of emigrants to the uk do not support further emigration!

crazynanna · 30/06/2012 00:32

I am just about still friends with my mate of 10 years after she voted for Boris!
Still have to take snorty breaths when I think about it.

If she was a BNP supporter...I think I would have to just bite her ear off.

ravenAK · 30/06/2012 00:35

megabored, do you mean immigration?

Emigration is people leaving.

Mrsjay · 30/06/2012 00:36

who votes for Boris seriously the man is a turd

MrJudgeyPants · 30/06/2012 00:41

Talking about capping immigration or the pro's and con's of multiculturalism is one thing, bandying around such horrible concepts as "race traitors" is overstepping the mark. The BNP are the political party of the knob-head classes who don't realise that their particularly toxic blend of white supremacy and communism (taking away any racial elements, their manifesto is almost identical to that of the Socialist Workers Party) has been tried in the past. Indeed a National Socialist Workers Party (or Nazi for short) is the very antithesis of everything the British stand for.

And on that bombshell, I invoke Godwin's Law - do I win a cuddly toy or something???

crazynanna · 30/06/2012 00:41

exactly mrsjay. I think my friend was either menopausal or pissed. Or both.

Mrsjay · 30/06/2012 00:43

a menopausal pissed voter cant be good , I saw him on 'something' and i had a Confused face as i couldnt get over folk voted him as mayor