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To not agree with school about this?!

74 replies

StrawberryJamTart · 13/06/2012 21:04

Maybe I am being totally unreasonable but I don't feel I am in the wrong. I am a regular who has name changed as don't want to be identified and some details below may do that!

I work in a school. The leader of our key stage has said we are not allowed to make Father's day cards as it's not the done thing. Angry

For Mother's day we had to make cards and presents (which was lovely) and I want to do the same for father's day.

One girl in the class has two dads (adopted) and i feel so upset to think they won't get a card from her made at school.

It's not even to do with not knowing if there is a dad on the scene as for the class I work with, we know the background of all the children and know it would be safe to send a card home.

There's nothing I can do to over ride her decision but just feel so sad that the children won't be making cards
hormones may have exacerbated my emotions

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Groovee · 13/06/2012 21:05

My dd's year doesn't make mother's day cards as 2 children don't have mothers. There is probably a child without a dad in the year.

JumpingThroughHoops · 13/06/2012 21:06

In 20 years my children have never made a fathers day card at school

Fathers have be airbrushed out lest we offend.

phantomnamechanger · 13/06/2012 21:06

can't the kids do it in their "own ideas" time or "craft zone" or whatever your school has?

does seem odd to do one but not the other

Thatisnotitatall · 13/06/2012 21:07

If they did mothers day cards they should have done fathers day cards, but with the understanding that staff could encourage them to also make cards for anyone who looks after them - grandad or whoever, or even another for their mum. There are kids without mums too of course, though it is a less common household there is no getting around the fact!

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 13/06/2012 21:07

I would say that;s discrimination actually..this woman cannot say "We make Mothers Day cards but not Fathers Day cards!"

Why don't you make Dad, Uncle, brother and Grandad cards instead if shes afraid for those without dads?

WorraLiberty · 13/06/2012 21:08

That's a shame

There are plenty of kids without parents in my DS's school but that doesn't mean they don't get to make Father's Day or Mother's Day cards.

For those who don't have parents, they just make the cards for their carers/grand parents/aunt/uncle or whoever.

I'm sure the school can use a little imagination.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 13/06/2012 21:09

YANBU. If there was a child who couldn't make a Dad or a Grandad card in your class, I'm sure you would know about it and be sensitive to that. But if there isn't, and you aren't being allowed to do it just because of some ridiculous 'it's not the done thing' statement, then it's a pointless rule.

What did the girl with two Dads do for mothers day? Surely any child without a Dad coud do the same thing anyway?

RevoltingChildren · 13/06/2012 21:09

That's really sad. My children's school have a special assembly and activities for dads to go in tomorrow. Dh can't go because he is a teacher but still.

My auntie died when her children were 6&7 and they always took part in mothers day- it was just adapted do they made something to remember her by.

wonkylegs · 13/06/2012 21:11

I think it's sad, even if a child didn't have a dad surely you could encourage them to make a card for some one else special in their life. A bit of thought would go a long way especially if you already do them for mums.

timetosmile · 13/06/2012 21:11

Ours always do Fathers' Day cards at school, and Cubs, and Brownies and Sunday school.......the mantlepiece looks as if DH has about 15 children by Sunday evening Hmm

StrawberryJamTart · 13/06/2012 21:11

She made a grandma cars on mother's day! I want to make cards with the children but if I do and he found out I could get in trouble. We run a few classes in the key stage and all have to be seen to be doing the same thing at all times Hmm

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Sparks1 · 13/06/2012 21:12

The leader of our key stage has said we are not allowed to make Father's day cards as it's not the done thing

Done thing? I'd like to see them justify such a flippant and vague comment...

StrawberryJamTart · 13/06/2012 21:12

Card*
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sparkles281 · 13/06/2012 21:15

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 13/06/2012 21:16

Coudk you do something else instead? Like a special picture, or picture frame that could be man themed and conveniently go home on Friday?

StrawberryJamTart · 13/06/2012 21:17

I was going to make them in secret and sneak them in book bags before leader could see but my main worry is what if one of the other classes complains that our class did them and theirs didn't!

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HorraceTheOtter · 13/06/2012 21:18

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 13/06/2012 21:18

Maybe get them all to draw something they like doing with their Dads and put a PSHE spin on it? Or a picture of their Dads doing their job after an interesting discussion about different occupations?

I work in reception though so its easy to get away with that sort of thing. Not so much in KS2!

123caughtaflea · 13/06/2012 21:25

Oh what? In my current class I have one child whose mother is dead - she has done a variety of things over the years on Mother's Day, something for mummy's grave, something for granny, something for daddy. I also have 4 children whose fathers are dead or not on the scene. I always do Father's Day. In this case, how can I not give the child whose mother is dead the chance to do something for her daddy on Father's Day? This year the four without fathers - 2 did it for grandparents, 1 did it for a pet (not confronting her feelings, but that's OK - it was her coping mechanism) and number 4 - well. Number 4's father-substitute is in the last stages of terminal cancer and child wrote about special memories. If father-substitute is alive on Father's Day, what a lovely final gift. If not, it will mean a lot to father-substitute's widow. I have amended details here, so not breaching anyone's privacy btw!

My own son has no father on the scene and we do something for his uncle, and if it is done at school he knows that he has a special uncle (he has!) It's manageable, completely.

voddiekeepsmesane · 13/06/2012 21:26

Wow so because of a minority the majority are not to give their fathers cards on the day made at school very very sad and once again societies way of marginalising adult men. What does that say to our sons which are to be dads of the future!

AKE2012 · 13/06/2012 21:30

My sis is always asking this question.Why dont they make fathers day cards? Her son is at nursery and she is with her partner (childs dad). Both of them pick the child up so they know that his father is in his life but they dont make fathers day cards.
My childs dad isnt in her life but neither me or her would b offended if others in her class made cards. Shes not the only one without a dad in her class. What they could do is just make cards. If children with dads want to make Fathers day cards the others could jus make cards for someone they love.
My childs school dont do mothers or fathers day and i think thats the best. The school should either do both or do neither.

Itsjustafleshwound · 13/06/2012 21:34

Is it a CofE school? I would add that Mothering Sunday has a Christian element to it where Father's day is just some manufactured date ...

StrawberryJamTart · 13/06/2012 21:39

We are CofE yes although there was no religious element mentioned when we made Mother's day cards etc

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Itsjustafleshwound · 13/06/2012 21:43

But it is a date on the Christian calendar unlike Father's day ....

WorraLiberty · 13/06/2012 21:45

My Sister died on Mother's Day when her two DD's were only 7 and 9yrs old.

They still used to make Mother's Day cards in school and little paper flowers to lay on her grave.

The kids in their classes were absolutely brilliant and would really fuss over them, which they both seemed to love.