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To hate when people say in response to a name that they can't imagine Judge/CEO/Accountant having that name.

319 replies

squoosh · 12/06/2012 17:48

These days names are chosen from such a wide and wacky pool that it's inevitable that in 50 years time when we're old and doddery and looking to draw up a will, speak to a financial adviser or surgeon that many of them will have names that seem silly to us. I'm thinking Lexie-Rae, Poppy, Spike, Jayden etc.

I hate lots of names and have very rudely said so on a number of occasions but this is my most hated reason. Are people basically saying that the name isn't middle class enough? I don't make a judgement on a person based purely on their name, I may make a judgement on the person who bestowed that name on them.

Do people honestly think that if someone is called Daisy-Boo she will be unable to study hard, get into a good university, gain a good degree and become a doctor/scientist whatever. Will her name physically prevent this? No it bloody won't.

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monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 19:16

I don't know? is it? there seems to be a LOT of people on as low an income as me on here which is why its so easy to get advice about benefits, there also seems to be a lot of people from similarly deprived areas as me

there are lots of people who like boden discount codes, and as many who cannot afford boden, there's just lots of people IN GENERAL on MN so I have no idea how the ratios pan out on any given babyname thread!

usualsuspect · 13/06/2012 19:16

I like Sharona

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 19:17

also lots of people on here who do the same job as me, a v working class job! so ????

usualsuspect · 13/06/2012 19:18

It's a very MC forum , trust me Grin

Mrsjay · 13/06/2012 19:23

this thread is LONG , i wanted to say I work with young mothers some unmarried some poor and some in relationships , and I have never come across a 'chavvy' name as these young women are supposed to be the type of people who name their children chardonay or lambrini Grin these little kids have 'normal names ' it really pisses me off when i see these threads , Oh and the chemist i spoke to today was called kyle .

GrimmaTheNome · 13/06/2012 19:26

Its mostly MC and aspirational WC isn't it?

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 19:54

y'know what usualsuspect, I don't think I have ever heard a MC person utter the word "chav" (not that it doesn't happen of course, just probably not as much)
it is used A LOT where I live, usually by WC people who feel at risk of being called a chav themselves so point the finger at people MORE "chavvy" than them! DSs nursery is TERRIBLE for this, those who deem themselves SLIGHTLY above the other "chavs" sneering at "the chavs", it annoys me cause we all live in the same area, will use the same schools, our kids will grow up together - it's stupid!
IMO people who don't feel at risk of being called a chav are less bothered by chavs
(horrible word that it is!)

so I wouldn't assume that the "chav name" threads attract the MC posters necessarily

KoyKarp · 13/06/2012 20:05

I really want to tell you my sons name but I am worried about being judged... I have never heard it go down well on MN!

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 20:11

no monkey it is NOT the point.
That would be pathologising my child instead of looking at the real issue. The issue that our society puts up with prejudice and bigotry.

Some forms are becoming less acceptable, particularly to the chattering classes. You wouldnt catch them dead being rude about ethnicity or disability. So that only really leaves sneering at the underclasses and their awful name choices.

My son is wonderful. Why should the disadvantages he has, through no fault of his own or mine hold him back? Because others cannot be bothered to leave go of their beliefs about what constitutes an acceptable, proper name?

Call me a anarchist but feck that! Feck it sideways!

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 20:15

saying it exists is not putting up with it or condoning it or accepting it
wanting to reduce the predudices my children have to put up in one of the few ways I can control (naming) doesn't mean I'm okay with the fact that there are so many predudices there

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 20:15

Personally I am really not bothered who does the sneering. If you sneer at Henrietta you are just as bad as someone who sneers at Shanteyarla.

The main difference being is that that Henrietta isnt going to suffer as much for the sneering of the inverted snobs. But it doesnt make her name any better or more acceptable.

WC or MC or from the royal family - its wrong and its is rude

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 20:16

on the flip side, if I were to call my next child chardonnay it wouldn't do anything to end the predudice, it'ld just potentially make my child's life harder!

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 20:17

of course it's rude and wrong, who is saying it isn't?
the OP is about whether certain names are harder to live with or not
saying yes some are, isn't saying that the REASONS why they are are okay!

Clytaemnestra · 13/06/2012 20:22

It's Eloise :) Sheena is a punk rocker is a great song, but not a particularly good name.

When I'm being all litererary I say she's named for Abelard and Heloise, writers of steamy love letters in the 12th century. If I'm being honest she's really named after the Damned song, because I love it greatly and the Damned were my first gig when I snuck out of the house when I was 13. I'm not sure how aspirational that really is! :) FIL thinks she's named after the Barry Ryan song the Damned covered, which was loosely about Heloise and Abelard in the first place, so everyone is right in a way.

I can't critisise people for the aspirational quality of Armani, if DD hadn't been Eloise I wanted to call her Vivienne after Vivienne Westwood, I just don't like it as it's not a first name in my experience, so sounds weird. I also like Savannah and Chelsea but DH told me to take a hike with those two.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 20:35

Prejudice should never be seen as the problem of the oppressed.

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 20:39

of course, but when it comes to naming your child you can opt your kid in or out of it, I don't see how it helps to make a martyr of them

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 20:47

You can chose a name that you dont like in order to pacify someone you dont know, who holds views you dont agree with?
Really?

monkeymoma · 13/06/2012 21:00

why would anyone choose a name they don't like?, theres so many names to choose from!

I love DSs name
I will pick a name I love for DCno2, I have crossed off a name I like because it sounds very silly with our surname.. that doesn't mean I have to use a name I DON'T like!

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 21:04

But there are thousands of names I dont like.
I LIKE names that are considered unusual and possibly a bit chav.
I really dont like (for my children) names that are considered acceptable.

If I had to chose an approved name it would be one I didnt like.

I have squeezed a Peter, Jake and William amoung the 21 names my DCs have between them. But they are tucked away so as not to hold them back from their careers as avant garde jazz musicians ;)

oldenglishspangles · 13/06/2012 21:21

People can't help looking down on the names other people choose for their children. I have heard people talk of names not being suitable for their dcs becasue they are 'a bit stuck up', 'a bit council' or even a bit 'exotic' to name a few reasons. The other thing I find ironic is how upset they get when someone they know has a child before them and 'steals' the name they were thinking of. Suddenly they can't use that name anymore..... Really?

Dozer · 13/06/2012 21:26

My dad has a v unusual name, lots of bullying at school about it, still dislikes it, but useful at work as people remember it, he never has to use his surname!

EmmaCate · 13/06/2012 21:42

YABU to the header question. YANBU if they then proceed to treat the person differently because of it.

DH and I are 'professionals', and we considered all our shortlisted names from that perspective in case the children followed a similar career pathway (and met people who do get judgey about things like that). Sad, but we did!

Nancy66 · 13/06/2012 21:47

My auntie Marilyn changed her name because she thought it made her sound 'brassy' and 'common.' So she changed it to what she thought was a posh and classy name....LINDA Grin

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 13/06/2012 21:48

I think Marilyn is due a comeback.

Nancy66 · 13/06/2012 21:50

Jean is dead trendy now.