To hate when people say in response to a name that they can't imagine Judge/CEO/Accountant having that name.

[squoosh]

These days names are chosen from such a wide and wacky pool that it's inevitable that in 50 years time when we're old and doddery and looking to draw up a will, speak to a financial adviser or surgeon that many of them will have names that seem silly to us. I'm thinking Lexie-Rae, Poppy, Spike, Jayden etc.

I hate lots of names and have very rudely said so on a number of occasions but this is my most hated reason. Are people basically saying that the name isn't middle class enough? I don't make a judgement on a person based purely on their name, I may make a judgement on the person who bestowed that name on them.

Do people honestly think that if someone is called Daisy-Boo she will be unable to study hard, get into a good university, gain a good degree and become a doctor/scientist whatever. Will her name physically prevent this? No it bloody won't.

It's patronising to suggest that names like that are the norm for WC children. My cousins have given their DC normal names. Their DC's friends have normal names.

I didn't say they were the norm. I said they were not laughable. Thy Re not abnormal either. If they were I wouldn't know quite so many would I?
Unless you think the one I know belong to some sort of underclass?
Is that what you think?

In my experience WC people don't tend to judge names as much as the MC.

I think this thread proves that.

I'm not allowed to have a view as I'm not WC.

[http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/146467/Chav-s-curse-children-with-odd-names/Chav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-namesChav-s-curse-children-with-odd-names Well known MC paper]] judging names.

www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/146467/Chav-s-curse-children-with-odd-names

Damn that MC judgyness.

"In my experience WC people don't tend to judge names as much as the MC"

my experience is the polar opposite, lots of "who do they think they are" if a family called their child something "snobby" in the WC areas I grew up! My middle name is Caroline, CAROLINE FFS! quite an ordinary name IMO but apparently its a "snobby" name

and WC FIL and his cronies would do impressions of anyone who called their kids names that they percieved to be MC or UC

I find that with MC people its very much more anything goes!

It's nice to know that my adopted son, who was given his name by his birth parents, is to be judged for the rest of his life by some small minded people.

How dare he not be offered an interview due to name alone, maybe he should put a disclaimer on his future CV stating he is adopted and not from a 'chavvy' family to improve his chances. How dare people who do not know him will look down upon him and make ill informed opinions before getting to know who he is.

Will I now to be judged as the Mum who chose 'that' name for him and what was I thinking. Is it going to make me a worse mother in the eyes of others or should I go round telling everyone he is adopted to ensure he and I are treated fairly without prejudice?

A name is just a name and does not influence who are you as believe me my wonderful son is to be given every opportunity to suceed but it will be his dreams, aspirations and achievements which will be the making of him and I hope he manages to stick 2 fingers up at those ignorant people who say with a name like his he will amount to nothing.

Any newspaper that uses the words 'chav names' in a headline is not worth the paper it's written on.

So the MC can use weird names and it's acceptable , but the WC can't?

I've lost count of the 'it's a bit council estate' 'white trash' 'chavvy' comments on the baby name threads on MN.

"So the MC can use weird names and it's acceptable , but the WC can't?"

who said that? that's some major twisting there twisterina!
I said that my experience is that WC groups are less ACCEPTING of variety than the MC groups I know, and more likely to judge, noone said that anyone can or cant

but FWIW, IMO UC people CAN give whatever names they want without it hindering their kids because they have other means of opening doors rather than just presenting themselves like WC and MC kids have to IYWKIM.

I don't think ordinary MC people can use weird names with impunity - need to be vair upperMC or sprigs of the nobility to pull off the really outre names.

Glad I'm a scientist. Any name is fine so long as it's got 'Dr' in front of it.

Have you ever read the baby name threads on MN?

I would raise an eyebrow at Armani. It's not a name I've ever encountered apart from the brand and it's a surname, I don't think it sounds right as a first name. I feel the same about Smith as a first name, just sounds weird to me, probably due to lack of familiarity. It's not me that has to cart it round though so I don't get too worked up about it.

But I only like names which have been around for donkey's years (like 400+) and I named my DD after a punk song so I can't really judge other people's choices.

WRT the chinese people someone up thread knew who changed their names to easy to remember things, it's not just pronunciation, it's memorability. I lived in Asia for a few years and remembering names was HARD, because you're not just associating a name with a person, you're learning a whole new word and associating it with a person. I have a name that is really hard to pronounce in Japanese, and I used a different abbreviation while I lived there to make everyone's life easier, I never thought badly of Japanese people for not being able to remember/pronounce my real name.

It's a newspaper whose 'readership' is largely WC. But no doubt it's been secretly seeded with MC prejudices.

Dudey my adopted son has one of the most hated names on MN. It is the epitome of chavviness.
As if he didn't have enough to deal with, mixed race,WC,adopted and with SN.
Just another layer of shite for him to have to push through.

And Narked...let's not get all PA. if you look at my post I'm clearly acknowledging your right to an opinion. I am not agreeing that you are right.

Start one , suggest Stanley , lots of 'lovely name' 'I love it' comments.

Start another , suggest Tyler, lots of 'chavvy' 'rough council estate' even 'white trash' comments.

and the MC don't judge?

Eloise?

Sheena?

I think that the MC do judge, but so do the WC. Though some posters on here seem to think it's solely 'MC snobbery.'

usualsuspect, that "test" would only work if you asked everyone to state their class before commenting on the name wouldn't it?

"As if he didn't have enough to deal with, mixed race,WC,adopted and with SN.
Just another layer of shite for him to have to push through"
isn't that the point! there is judging and its wrong, but if you are the one naming the child then why give it another layer of shite to push trough in life? I'm not gonna saddle my kids with life being a wee bit harder than it already is just because it shouldn't be hard!

Well I would say that most of MN is MC, wouldn't you?

Sharona?