To think DS is being REALLY ungrateful?

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Thread about a thread but the last one was mine also!

So been trying to decide where to go on Holiday and DS1 (14, will be 15 when we go) wanted to go to LA. For numerous reasons I don't want to go there so me and the other adult have chosen Orlando. We went in 2009 but there is loads there we didn't do.

This time we will be swimming with dolphins, harry potter world, busch gardens etc. DS2 (who will be 13) will love it.

Well, DS1 has gone off in a major mood saying it's a crap holiday and he would rather stay here than go to "crappy Orlando again". I'm "tight" apparently not to mention "boring".

He's still kicking off saying he's not coming.

I said "fine, it will save me £1000 if you don't come".

He replied "no, you will OWE me £1000 if I don't come".

I know the answer but I want back up. INBU am I?

Can I suggest Chicago? It has tons to do for adults AND teenagers, has a great history, has a HUGE fresh water lake that has beaches, and is within driving distance of several theme parks.

I hope you realise OP that you are going to bombarded with comments that you've 'spoiled him' and 'my DS would be happy going to Blackpool and eating tin foil sandwiches everyday'

But alas, he sounds like he's being a a typical moody teenager who likes to complain about EVERYTHING. Not that this justifies his behaviour.

I'd play along that you're not taking him. He'd change his tune eventually...

camping in wales is the only answer I'm afraid, that'll teach him.

Some people go on holiday to the same place every year. My family had 2nd home in the mountains and we spent ALL our holidays there. And it wasn't boring, we loved it.

So I don't see how he can complain about visiting a place only twice, when you aren't doing the same things and he isn't paying!

YABU for wanting to force a 15year old to go on holiday to somewhere he doesn't want to go. YANBU to not give him the money you'll save by him not going though.

I second mixedberry. He'll have an amazing time and in a few years, when he's grown up and understands the value of things better, he'll probably be mortified that he behaved like this.

When I were a lass (60's/70's) our family holiday was often a week at my grandparents caravan in Norfolk. And I can still remember this wonderful excited feeling of freedom I would get as we got ready to leave.

Sorry, but your DS does sound incredibly entitled and spoiled

The thing is, it's not as if we never do anything else! we went to Orlando in 2009. Since then we have been to Spain (2011) and Rhodes (2012) and he will have been to Germany twice since.

Orlando is vast, there are tons of stuff we didn't do last time. We're not just going to repeat the holiday we had last time.

I cannot comprehend ever speaking like that to my mum when I was a teen.

Sorry op but IMO he sounds awful.

I have 2 younger brothers and a teen bil, none of whom would dream of speaking like that.

You brought him up so if he is a spoilt brat then whose fault is it?...

My parents offered to take me to Russia when I was 15 & I turned it down, i was so excited at having the house to myself instead! (Actually they got an adult friend in to stay in evenings). Still, what a plonker, to pass up on 2 weeks somewhere so interesting.

Definitely find the most boring maiden aunt to come stay with him & off you go without him.

£1000/person budget for 2 weeks in FL or CA would be a bargain.

yeah i guess.

i don't think it hurts to take your kids opinions into consideration when booking holidays.
it would be nice if you could all sit down and work out a place you would ALL like to go. so that means if everyone else doesn't like LA, it's out.
clearly as the adults you get the final choice, but nothing wrong with including them in the decision making

like i say, california really is a fantastic place and you could do a day or 2 in L.A (altohugh appreciate that you prob don't want to change it now and let him get his way!)... just for future ref :)

when i was a teen my parents and Dsis went on family holiday to Canada. I might a right old fuss about it being "boring" , I didnt want to go - generally being a twat. I had to stay with my nan, and they went and got upgraded to 1st class on the flights, had an amazing time and went to beautiful places. 20 years on whenever it is mentioned I wish I hadnt been such an arse, realised what an amazing holiday it was they were offering me and gone. Having said that if I had gone I would prob have sulked! Leave him here like Betty said but with boring relative.... I dont think he will ever say something like that again.

Yes thisisyesterday lets reward his bratty behaviour by changing the holiday plans-that will really teach him a good lesson

thisis you need to read the op's other thread about how none of the family can make a decision about where they want to go, all they know is that they don't want the hassle of arranging it!

Also I'd think California is too far for a hop over for a couple of days, you would be flying over timezones as well.

He's the only one that wants to go to LA.

I dont because a) I don't want to spend my holiday driving everywhere
b) It's more expensive
c) There isn't a lot to do for two weeks that don't include ridiculous travel times.

There were plenty of places I want to go when I was a child but I never got to go anywhere!! I'm making up for it now as an adult and he can do the same, when he's working and paying for it!

YANBU. I would be livid if mine reacted like that to the offer of a fantastic holiday.
Could you call his bluff and leave him with grandparents?

However, I have to say I would rather go to LA and travel up to San Fran

OP do I recall a thread from you previously about him moaning about something else? It was the Germany trip that jogged my memory.

I do agree though that it is boring to go back to the same place again - unless for something like skiing or sailing which is more about it being a good location for the sport than anything else.

My mum would have had me hanged, drawn and quartered if at 15, I turned my nose up at a fabulous holiday. Or indeed any holiday she booked.

You don't get to dictate the family holiday when you are a. A child and b. Not paying for it.

To go off topic a little, please please don't swim with captive dolphins. They will have been taken from the wild and seen their mothers butchered, no matter what crap Discovery Cove try and tell you. Attending these things only supports this vile trade. Please spare a moment to look at this and if you want to see dolphins, go on a trip to see them in the wild, where they belong.

Thank you for that Ariel, I had no idea.

Truly awful.

I know. The awful thing is, that they spin such a load of propaganda, that people genuinely have no idea. When they find out, they are horrified at how they have been duped.

It is greatly to the UK's credit that we have no such facilities in this country. Long may it stay that way.

Anyway, sorry for the hijack.

My advice is to go to Cleethorpes

Sorry - thought you were the OP

Oi, what's wrong with Pwllheli anyway?

Can I come in place of your DS?