To wonder about all the press on Social Services taking children away?

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From good families and parents for no good reason. It is media hype or is there truth in it?

Talking with friends recently, some say they are careful about what they say to the GP for fear of what goes down on record. For example, they would think twice before saying something along the lines of, "I'm finding it hard to cope with my young children while sick with flu (or whatever illness)".

Amy social workers out there who could comment? Is it true that 95% of children are never returned to their parents once removed?

Scary. I can't believe this could happen.

There has actually been a bit of an uproar about the Eastenders story line.

And of course its wrong, its a soap opera, they have to blow things out of proportion.

i suppose the eastenders story line about baby lexi is totally wrong aswell ? so why are the bbc not being sued for misrepresentation????

I know i was leaving but really.

Eastenders is a fictional programme. Thats why.

Its statements like above (and lack of actual evidence) which make you come across manic and totally unreliable as someone who should be advising people on SS.

i am reporting the facts as can be found in the news and from my own case and other cases i know in person.

IT IS YOU LOT THAT IS CALLING ME A LIAR

We are asking for proof. Stop spamming and shouting if you really want a decent debate. However, I expect you are just trolling.

What you have to remember when you read these reports is that you can never hear the social services side of the story because they are bound by duties of confidentiality. Therefore you only hear one side of the story and there is no way of checking the truth. So, for some parents who have had their children taken away entirely justifiably, it's a glorious opportunity to get lots of publicity and sympathy knowing that no-one is going to contradict you. I've never yet seen one of those reports where the parents have waived the duty of confidentiality in relation to themselves so that we can all check out the facts more thoroughly. I therefore read them all with a high degree of scepticism.

I am actually getting really peeved at the thread now. So the last thing I want to say is simply this.
I LOVE my job. Not because I am taking children away from anyone
but because every single day I go out into different family homes and I make a difference. I help struggling families and I love to do it. I love to help. With all the bad things that are being said make me feel crap. I know what my daily duty is and I know I do it the best possible way I can. YES sometimes it is not always a good day. I do have to go into homes who do not want to listen to me when all I am trying to do is help them. But I would not change my job for the world !! If you have had a bad time you need to speak to someone who can help you rather than looking for someone else to blame it will not solve your problems I'm afraid.

OMG SO YOUR SAYING THAT THE SS DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEY STORY LINE IN EASTENDERS BECAUSE ITS FICTIONAL?????

THEY ARE SHOWING SS IN THE RIGHT LIGHT AND FOR WHAT THEY ARE

WHY IS THIS ON THIS INTERNET AND IN THE NEWS THEN THAT SOCIAL WORKERS ARE OUTRAGED BY EASTENDERS STORYLINE ABOUT BABY LEXI

www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2012/oct/09/eastenders-social-care

lol ok

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i dont know how to do the link so you can just click on it.

but if you copy and paste the links i put on you can find the said story that i mention.

all the stories that i have put links on cant all be false"

What would be the chances? Ooh about 1000 times higher than all social workers and thir support staff being involved in a giant child snatching cover up. Yet you seem to have no problem believing that.

Yawn

This is absolutely pointless.

I really hope you don't show your grandson this vicious attitude, because that's the last thing he will need right now.

Sunshine, please don't get upset about it. Everyone apart from secret on here is full of praise for social workers and for the system.

SO WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN TAKEN TO COURT FOR FALSE REPRESENTATION ?

YES THE CAN DO THAT IF EVERY SINGLE STORY IN EITHER THEIR PAPERS OR ON THERE TV CHANNEL IS FALSE....

JUST LIKE THE NICE DR HIBBERT WHO DID FALSE REPORTS FOR SS IS BEING TAKEN TO COURT.
#THAT YOU CAN GOOGLE.

Have you ever seen an Eastenders story on something you know a lot about? It is never quite right. Partly because it is made more dramatic for effect an partly because the writers just don't know everything.

The whole "Libby and Tamwar applying to Oxford" annoyed the hell out of me as they kept getting it wrong.

Another example is Holby City last week. Jac commented that "St Barts is the place to go." Which is fine except that I can remember my friend who went telling me it is either St Bartholemews or Barts. Never ever St Barts.

Thank you :)

I WILL NOT SAY SORRY TO ANYONE I HAVE BEEN CALLED STUPID BY YOU LOT AND BEEN CALLED A LIAR MYSELF BY YOU LOT.

SOME HAVE EVEN SAID I NEED HELP

Yes... I think you actually do. This amount of anger and hatred is not healthy.

SO TELL MY WHY SOME LA AND SW ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THE STORYLINE ON EASTENDERS ??????

Can you quote the person who called you stupid and a liar?

I said you talk out of your arse because you do
You have said several things that are factually incorrect putting it mildly and presented them as fact, such as that you knew people who were challenging adoption orders.
You have insulted social workers in the vilest terms by stating that they intentionally and maliciously remove children from safe parents for financial gain.
You are blinkered and irrational and ridiculous.
STOP SHOUTING
Stop spamming with daily fail links
Eastenders is made up. There is nobody to take them to court and nobody who would be stupid enough to try.

The fact that you are yelling again shows how het up you are about all this. And you may well have cause to be. But you can only go on your own case and not on others because you will never know the details.

As others have said, no-one is going to tell people that they failed their children and had them removed from home. They will almost always find someone else to blame - thats human nature.

Having worked alongside SS for many years I have seen only a handful of emergency removals and they were for children in grave and immediate danger. All of the others had a long history of SS involvement prior to the children being removed. Meetings, planning, care plans, support networks had all been tried and exhausted before any decision to remove a child.

When I was younger I remember feeling absolute horror and outrage at some of the situations that children were left in "with support" and felt that they should have been removed immediately.

Many mothers were in difficult DV situations but were reluctant to give up the partner in order to safeguard the child/ren and so the children were removed to foster care and possible adoption to protect them.

There are no easy answers to this. The only people who really know what goes on behind closed doors are the people living behind them and their care workers.

SO WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN TAKEN TO COURT FOR FALSE REPRESENTATION ?

Because its a fictional programme, which means its can stretch the truth and make stuff up. because it is known to be fictional it does not have to accurate. Because ofcom feel people should have enough sense to know as its fictional its not true.

You do know eastenders isn't real don't you?

Individual social workers may be upset by it, but eastenders can not be sued as they are not claming its real.