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to think a fake reach is just common courtesy?

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GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 19:56

Namechange appropriate to the subject.

As one of the single male posters on this marvellous forum, I would appreciate the female perspective...

I met a girl on a dating site and after exchanging a few ridiculously shallow e-mails she asked me if i wanted to meet up. She lives about 40 minutes away and had no car, so I drove to her town. We met up, had a coffee, then went to a pub (I wasn't drinking as driving, she was, but I bought the drinks anyway) and we then went to a certain ubiquitous faux upmarket pizza restaurant for a meal. The lack of spark on either side was obvious, but nourishment was necessary considering the arduous drive back, so why not?

After stuffing our faces and having some further scintillating small talk, the time came for the bill. The immaculately dressed waiter plonked it on the table, and I got out my wallet. I put the card down, and she just looked, grinned and said 'Thanks'.

Now, being the man I am I would probably have batted away her advances to go dutch anyway. And it was hardly 'Dinner at Hestons' and wasn't going to leave me destitute, but considering we both knew this wasn't going to end up with his n her's gravestones, was it unreasonable to expect at least a fake reach for her purse?

After all, isn't it part of the game to knock back her offer with a gallant 'Don't be silly?'

Thoughts much appreciated!

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rhibutterfly · 14/05/2012 20:19

I would fully expect to go halves,i'd actually prefer it on first date.

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:20

LadyRabbit I'm shocked that didn't last as he sounds like a keeper! A man that tight sounds like the perfect companion in these austere times.

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OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:24

You have learned the hard way to go for coffee only on a first date. Paying for coffee and a cake is fine. If there's a second coffee girl can pay. She sounds like she wanted a cheap night out but tbh if you weren't keen you should have called her bluff and said, "No, thank you." :o

OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:24

Rabbit a prince among men your ex :o

OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:27

And for what it's worth I have a thread from last week about how to win at online dating - shamelessly written from female perspective and also shamelessly in favour of not shagging for the first few dates so you can separate the opportunistic shaggers from the decent guys. May or may not be useful to OD.

carabos · 14/05/2012 20:28

I'm amazed that in 2012 there is any debate about this at all Shock. Two adults = two bills, unless there's some over-riding reason, agreed in advance, why not!

I can't believe that there are women out there who would let a man they barely know buy them dinner. Grow the fuck up!

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:29

Indeed ODQ - thanks. I'll chalk it down as a lesson in life with pizza included.

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OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 14/05/2012 20:34

YANBU.

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:36

ODQ that thread is fascinating.

Online dating has been a complete farce for me.

Two other ones were a case of a girl who seemed to just want to write incredibly detailed emails, including ones about her dates with other blokes, yet always evading the question of meeting up. Another blocked me after I didn't reply to her message 'Shall we move onto the phone?' for a day after we'd been exchanging a flurry of mails - I was struck down with severe man flu. Put me off for a good year that one.

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xMumof3x · 14/05/2012 20:38

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TeaTeaLotsOfTea · 14/05/2012 20:40

Ooh I'd have insisted on dutch.

TBF though if the the date was that bad I'd have probably made it a take out.

She clearly decided to make it about what she could get out of it. Nice girl

stuffitunderthebed · 14/05/2012 20:43

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OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:44

George - you saw the 'rules'. Persistence, persistence, persistence :o

And you had a narrow escape by the sounds of things, especially with the second one - although in fairness she had probably been burned by some wanker previously and was taking a zero tolerance approach - unfortunate for you (and her) if you were the next one to cross paths with her.

Good luck with it :)

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:44

It wasn't a bad date at all Tea. We were both nattering away like a couple of old codgers on a daytrip to Skegness. It's just the chemistry aspect that was amiss. Which is strange for me as I usual start planning the wedding if a girl even asks me for the time.

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Debeez · 14/05/2012 20:44

YANBU.

I like to pay on the first date. Sets the tone.

Don't let her put you off. You sound like quite the gent deserving of a real lady not some free pizza scoffing freeloader!

OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:44

Mumof3 our minds work the same way :o

OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:46

Also George you're not being scary, intense guy are you? Because it's not just guys who run if the other person seems a bit too keen...

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:46

Thanks ODQ. In six months when I've finally got shot of the belly and cured my crippling fear of letting someone know I like them in case they see the spare tyre, there'll be no stopping me.

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OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:47

George sod the spare tyre, date now and the right lady will love your spare tyre and / or hit the gym with you :)

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:48

Actually ODQ, I'm quite the opposite! I'm too laid back and scared of something happening to actually do anything!

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NicNocJnr · 14/05/2012 20:50

Blimey! YANBU!

I have never fake reached (can't get over that sounding much more rude than it really is) I have offered to pay my share at least and may as easily have paid for the whole meal (apart from once when I objected strenuously and it was rubbish). I don't want to be paid for regardless, it's not fair! IMV.

If unsure surely always pay your way??

Hmm pizza freeloader would be looked at very pointedly in these parts!

Good luck with finding a lovely lady you deserve.

Puffinsaresmall · 14/05/2012 20:51

oi get your arse on the dating thread, maybe you're near one of the single laydeeezzz???

GeorgeCostanza · 14/05/2012 20:53

Without wishing to sound more inept than I am (i'm just unfeasibly lazy), where's this dating thread?

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OnlineDatingQueen · 14/05/2012 20:57

Oooooh, and here's a thread about things not to do on a first date :o

thefurryone · 14/05/2012 20:59

Me too mumof3 very disappointed to find this thread was much cleaner than I anticipated Grin

OP YANBU she should have paid her share.