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To leave Dd alone in hotel room?

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Shelby2010 · 13/05/2012 22:40

More of a WWYD really. We are going to be staying with Dd (18mths) in a hotel next month on holiday & then overnight for a wedding in July. How safe do MNetters feel it is to leave their sleeping DC in the room with either the listening service or a normal baby monitor while eating in the hotel restaurant or attending an evening reception?

Am I being very PFB to worry about how many members of staff could access the room (especially with programable card keys)? The fact that hotels do offer a listening service suggests that many parents are ok with this. I'm torn between thinking I'm paranoid and thinking that they always tell you not to leave valuables in you room except in the safe..... Help!

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5madthings · 14/05/2012 21:18

well when ds2 was little someone broke into our home when we were all in bed asleep, they ran away as i woke to feed ds2 (he was little baby) and the noise disturbed them i got to the top of the stairs to see two people running out the front door! it can happen at home as well.

and yes i dont make my kids go to bed early, and on holiday they often do stay up a bit later, but come 9pm they are ready for bed and i am ready for some adult time!

Coconutty · 14/05/2012 21:22

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mamalovesmojitos · 14/05/2012 21:46

Never have, never would. Not for a minute.

IsabelleRinging · 14/05/2012 21:48

I can understand people being worried about leaving their baby/child alone if they can't hear what is going on in the room in their absence. But wouldn't your baby monitor pick up all the theives and robbers and evil hotel staff entering the room, ours even detects when dd turns over in her sleep or breathes, let alone her vomiting, choking, being electrocuted etc

solidgoldbrass · 14/05/2012 21:53

Another factor is, of course, that DC are all different. Some need regular hours, so it's no good being all 'European' and sitting in a restaurant with a howling, wildly over-tired child and pissing off all the people who did get a babysitter or indeed have a babymonitor on the table. Some are adventurous and will climb out of bed and stick their fingers in light sockets given half a chance.
Mine's always been a good sleeper. Even in a tent - a couple of years ago we were at a festival and I was able to put him to bed in the tent, nip to the bar for a bit and later, go to a party a couple of tents away, which he slept all the way through despite the drumming, singing and dancing.

OhdearNigel · 14/05/2012 21:54

IME Baby listening service = receptionist having phone line to room open quietly on the switchboard at the back of reception while they are carrying on wtih everything else. They may or may not hear your child crying depending on how busy they are and if they are busy on the phone or with guests they won't be running immediately to get you. I've done baby listening when I've worked on reception and I would not use it

WeeDom · 14/05/2012 21:56

Coconutty, et al - it's neither big nor clever to keep banging on about the McCanns. Citing one totally mad thing that happened years ago as justification for over-protecting children is akin to madness.

There are no herds of paedophiles sweeping majestically over the plains of Essex/Cornwall/Scotland/where-ever you happen to be. Believe it or not, your child is not the most important or desirable in the world. The paedophiles are not stalking you and your child, just waiting for your back to be turned so that they can sneak into your hotel room with a counterfeit key they prepared earlier just on the off-chance that your room is the one with prey in.

Immigrants are not eating our swans (last person I met who had eaten swan was a Welsh tramp, as it happens), yoghurt does not give you cancer, paedophiles are not hiding behind the lamppost at the end of your road.

Get real. Grow up. Look around yourself and do what the rest of us adults do - assess the actual situation you find yourself in, not what the Daily Mail would have you believe, and make a reasonable decision based on reality - not illogical hysteria. That's what you owe your children. Hiding behind the bed? Waiting til they get so bored of your idiocy that they go to sleep in self-defence?

I'm genuinely struggling to believe that some of you are actually serious. Those who can't look at a situation and make a reasoned judgement - how are you going to teach your children about the real world, when you don't inhabit it yourself?

WeeDom · 14/05/2012 22:05

@solidgoldbrass - my Mrs Ex would refuse to let me ever see my children again, if I got up to such antics! Well, if she found out, more specifically

girliefriend · 14/05/2012 22:09

I wouldn't do it because even though rationally the risks are tiny it still wouldn't be worth the guilt if something did happen.

If a relative couldn't have dd for a night to that I could go and enjoy the wedding then I probably wouldn't go as it wouldn't be worth the stress.

parno · 14/05/2012 22:10

Oh my days, a voice of reason in the form of WeeDom.

OhdearNigel · 14/05/2012 22:11

So you have dinner on the ground floor, baby asleep a floor or two up...there is a fire. You think they will let you go and get your baby? Think again.

Confused I have worked as a duty manager in various hotels for 15 years. There is no way on this earth that I would leave that baby in the room in the event of a fire alarm, whether that was allowing the parents to go, getting another member of staff to go or going myself.

Part of the duties of a hotel fire officer is to ensure that all guests and members of staff are accounted for and if not, making reasonable attempts to get them out or advising the fire brigade immediately. You do realise that hotels actually have plans in place in the event of fire ? And people that know what to do in charge ?

mummytowillow · 14/05/2012 22:15

I wouldn't either, but I'm sure there others who would?

I took my then 18 month old to a wedding, put her in her PJ's and lay her in her pram, took her for a walk and she went to sleep. That was her asleep for the rest of the night, loud music and all!

Its one night, providing she will sleep in her pram I would do what I did!

HolyCameraConfusionBatman · 14/05/2012 22:18

Plans are one thing ohdear, what happens in reality can be very different. In the event of a fire alarm I'm sure a member of staff would go and get the baby, in the event of an actual fire I don't think you can rely on a member of staff to fight their way through the flames to rescue a child that has nothing to do with them. I'm sure you would advise the fire brigade immediately, might not be soon enough though.

OhdearNigel · 14/05/2012 22:21

to be frank the likelihood of a fire getting to the stage where staff were having to "fight their way through flames" are pretty much nil. Fire regulations are so tight that alarms go off at the slightest thing, most commercial systems now are heat and smoke triggered. Hotels are checked annually to ensure that their systems are up to code - and a hotel I worked in was threatened with closure if the required work wasn't done within 5 days.

toofattorun · 14/05/2012 22:21

No no no no no. Jesus.

MyAmygdalaDidIt · 14/05/2012 22:24

Hear hear mummytowillow I would don the jammies then into push chair after a bop .... the Spanish do it all the time ...

Would not ever, never leave DCs in hotel room alone. Cost-benefit analysis does not stack up.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 14/05/2012 22:25

We left our one year old (years ago) in the bedroom while we had dinner with the baby listening service - he was sound asleep and was a 7-7 sleeper. There was a (false) fire alarm and the hotel staff were up there to the room like 100 metre sprinters followed by us.

Kaekae · 14/05/2012 22:26

No way! Can't believe anyone would consider it. Madeleine McCann also springs to mind.

gladders · 14/05/2012 22:27

read the OP and was going to respond that we did pay for sitters to look after ds when he was about 18 months old in a hotel in the cotswolds.

the restaurant turned out to be about 50 yards from our room - at the time i felt we were NBU but in hindsight i think we were being PFB - we could have checked on him every half hour or so.

the hysteria on this thread is in large part due to what happened to Madeleine Mcann. General hysteria over a one-off event is not healthy IMO.

gordyslovesheep · 14/05/2012 22:28

I Weedom a bit now!

lolajane2009 · 14/05/2012 22:30

oh my god, i'd just not go rather than leave my child

AnyFucker · 14/05/2012 22:33

do you not get out much, gordy ? Wink

TheRhubarb · 14/05/2012 22:34

PerfumedLife - thank you.

We don't 'do' family holidays because we do family everything else so it's nice to have a bit of time when you are not a mother and on call 24/7. That being said, I've never heard the kids complain when we take them on backpacking holidays or staying with friends rather than CentreParcs or a resort with a Kids Club.

Look - I would not let my child be sat by a babysitter that I didn't know personally, neither would either of them been happy with it at all either. But would I condemn those who are happy enough to let a strange hotel staff member look after their child? No.

As someone very helpfully said. You do a risk assessment and if you deem it to be safe then go with it.

Not every baby will sleep in a buggy, not every baby wants to be up dancing until midnight, not every baby sleeps through whilst you sit in your hotel room with lamps on chatting, not every baby will be on their best behaviour whilst you eat a meal.

I remember in Portugal, dd was just turned 3 and no longer content to be put to sleep in her buggy. Both dh and I took it in turns to wheel her round and round but she would not sleep. We were trying to have a peaceful meal and chat and just be a couple, but she wanted attention. She wanted out, she wanted to eat our meal, she wanted to run around and play and we spent an exhaustive time trying to entertain her throughout the whole meal.

This and time spent sat in dark hotel rooms convinced us that a baby monitor was the way to go.

And yes our kids are fine with going out for meals and spending time in adult company. They've had to be because we don't live near any family or friends so I can count on one hand the number of times we've had an actual babysitter. Now that they are older they come with us.

On Saturday night we went out for our wedding anniversary meal. The kids came with us. It was ok but we spent a lot of the time talking to them, trying to persuade them to eat the meal we'd bought for them, asking them not to spill their coke, providing pens and paper for drawings, answering questions. We would have loved that time to be a couple again, but it wasn't to be. Yes we could have stayed at home and put them to bed, but that's what we do all the time. This time we wanted to go out, it was a special time.

What irks me is that people are not content to say "I would not do this", they have to then cast judgement on those who do. Despite us saying that a child is more likely to come to harm from a babysitter (the stats prove this) than being abducted from a hotel. Despite hotels being much much safer for fires than your own home. Despite children being able to choke and vomit in their sleep at home just as much in a hotel room and neither would you hear them then. In fact you are more likely to hear of any trouble if you are alert and have a baby monitor than you are if you are downstairs in your own home watching TV and they are upstairs in bed.

No-one is saying that doing this regularly is the right thing to do. But every now and then, there is nothing wrong imo to leave them in a locked hotel room with a baby monitor if you have done a proper risk assessment and are satisfied that they are ok. It's not much different to sitting outside in your garden on a nice evening whilst they sleep upstairs. Yes they might wake and want their mummy, but that's what the baby monitor is there for.

You can't absolve everything from every risk. Yes it is a choice to leave them in a hotel room and no you don't have to make that choice. But some of us do and we don't really need to be condemned and hung out to dry for it.

It seems that those who wouldn't do it are very prepared to slate those who have done it. Whilst those who have done it, aren't slating anyone.

gordyslovesheep · 14/05/2012 22:37

they let me out once a month to try and get used to society - it doesn't work Grin

I agree TheRhubarb

Kaekae · 14/05/2012 22:39

My children are the most precious little people in my life, it is a no brainer for me. I would also rather not go.

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