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To leave Dd alone in hotel room?

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Shelby2010 · 13/05/2012 22:40

More of a WWYD really. We are going to be staying with Dd (18mths) in a hotel next month on holiday & then overnight for a wedding in July. How safe do MNetters feel it is to leave their sleeping DC in the room with either the listening service or a normal baby monitor while eating in the hotel restaurant or attending an evening reception?

Am I being very PFB to worry about how many members of staff could access the room (especially with programable card keys)? The fact that hotels do offer a listening service suggests that many parents are ok with this. I'm torn between thinking I'm paranoid and thinking that they always tell you not to leave valuables in you room except in the safe..... Help!

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moogalicious · 14/05/2012 20:52

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5madthings · 14/05/2012 20:52

why would you want to sit in the dark, trying to be as quiet as possible once your baby has gone to sleep? you arent spending time with them are you? they are ASLEEP, they dont know if you are there or in the next room or downstairs whether that is in your own home or in a hotel when you could be on the same floor as them but in a room a few doors down!

and yes i love my kids and i am there for them 100% but do i often heave a sigh of relief when they are all tucked up in bed, the house is tidy and i can sit down and have a couple of hours chill out time?!! hell yes!

pumpkinsweetie · 14/05/2012 20:52

EasilyBored: you base your marriage on leaving your child alone so you can have time together???
One word BABYSITTER or quiet meal when babies are in bed.
Ive been with my H for 8 years and we have four dcs and we snatch moments to be romantic when kids are asleep from 7pm onwards and when in need of going on holiday or staying at a wedding the kids are with us at all times except for when sleeping in the next room.
Me and H have always made time for eachother but never once would we leave our dcs alone!

monkeymoma · 14/05/2012 20:53

while I do not subsribe to the "shouldn't have kids" hard line, I do wonder why people who cannot bear two whole weeks with their families without getting away and escaping for couple time book two week holidays in the first place?

why not just book as long as you can bear their company for in the first place? if you go a bonkers being "stuck with them" for more than a couple of days, just go for a couple of days!

we love our uninterrupted family time, but granted the longest holiday we've ever managed to take was 4 days, and that was a stretch, its usually a couple of nights for us. I can't imagine I'ld get sick of being stuck with DS all the time if we ever all got to go away for 2 weeks together (sounds like bliss), but if we did, we'ld live and learn and stick to shorter breaks in the future!

EasilyBored · 14/05/2012 20:53

I didn't stop being a person just because I had a baby. Sorry, but I can love my baby more than I thought humanly possible, and STILL prioritise having a little bit of time to myself. It's better for the whole family is EVERYONE'S needs are thought of.

5madthings · 14/05/2012 20:53

but you leave them alone when they are in bed at home, you are downstairs, they are upstairs, in a hotel you could be on the same floor, literally a few rooms away? the difference?!!

QuickLookBusy · 14/05/2012 20:54

In the rest of Europe many DC are up very late in restaurants. It doesn't seem to cause problems for the child or parent.

It's just some of us British who feel the need to get the DC off to bed at 7pm promt.

LeQueen · 14/05/2012 20:55

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ledkr · 14/05/2012 20:55

I got flamed for saying no to this when i first joined mn
No do not leave your child alone,its not worth the risk.

EasilyBored · 14/05/2012 20:56

Really? People really really really wouldn't want to have just a couple of hours to read a book, or take a little walk in the sunshine on their own while on holiday? Surely if you are there for two weeks, it's not unreasonable to have 2 hours to yourself while your other half plays with the kids? And it's not unreasonable to have an evening out together, just the two of you (and fine, get a babysitter, this isn't really about the monitor issue) on your holiday?

LeQueen · 14/05/2012 20:56

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WeeDom · 14/05/2012 20:58

I know my post was AGES ago, but let me just clarify that what I meant by "listening service" was more of a monitoring service. The phone in the room was left off the hook and, with a special code, you dialled into it to listen to your child at will.

Let me also explain what Mrs Ex did that night, and just how ridiculous some of the suggestions I've seen are.

This was a family funeral. We (along with many other family members) were staying at a hotel. It wasn't exclusive.

I had gone for drinks with a few family members in a pub nearby, leaving Mrs Ex (as discussed and agreed with her) to put DD to bed and sleep. I'd explaiend to Mrs. Ex how the monitoring worked, and suggested that she put DD to bed, then sit in the foyer with a glass of wine, next to a phone that she could use to check on DD every 20s, if that's what she wanted. After about an hour, I get a hysterical phone call from her. DD won't sleep.

"Where are you?"

"in the toilet (sob)"

"that's odd. Why are you calling from the loo? Have you dialled in to see how DD is getting on?"

"no, our loo. I'm in the bathroom. She just keeps yelling at me".

"oh, for crying out loud. Right, I'll be there in ten"

DD was 11 months old. She knew the difference between Mum leaving the room, and walking into a cupboard. DD was frustrated because she knew mum was jut behind that door, and was refusing to talk to her.

I took Mrs Ex out of the room, after settling DD, and we listened at the door for a minute. It was quiet.

We went downstairs, and dialled into the monitoring system. Nothing, except sleepy baby breathing. We then proceeded to have a good night with family we hadn't seen for years, checking that our daughter was ok using the monitor every half hour or so, until we were so confident that she was sound asleep that we ceased checking.

My point? I know my children won't go to sleep if I'm in the room. They want interaction, if I'm in the room. And they're not idiots. If I'm sitting in the bathroom, they'll want to know why. Are the people advocating the "constant adult presence in the room" saying that their children are idiots, and haven't spotted a hiding adult?

Lastly - I do agree that it's up to the individual to make their own decision. What I do, and have done, will not always sit comfortably with everyone. We, you and I, as parents have the right and the responsibility to make decisions about our children. Making judgements about the safety of any situation is our responsibility and nobody has the right to second guess that, and particularly not if the children are unharmed. As a father, I decide what risk is acceptable. If I am right, and my children are unharmed, then nobody has the right to second-guess that decision. If I get it wrong, then I face consequences, which might be legal, emotional, or both, or more.

My right/responsibility. OP's right/responsibility. Your right/responsibility. But don't try to take my rights/responsibilities from me.

SardineQueen · 14/05/2012 20:59

I also don't understand what is quality about crouching on the floor behind a bed in silence with a small nightlight for company from 7-8pm before giving up and going to bed at 8. Every night for a week Grin

Surely anyone sane would want to avoid that scenario!!

gordyslovesheep · 14/05/2012 20:59

ohhh stranger danger - peedows round every corner !

if you feel comfortable do it - she will be fine, you will have a nice dinner - win win

SardineQueen · 14/05/2012 21:01

"My point? I know my children won't go to sleep if I'm in the room. They want interaction, if I'm in the room. And they're not idiots. If I'm sitting in the bathroom, they'll want to know why. Are the people advocating the "constant adult presence in the room" saying that their children are idiots, and haven't spotted a hiding adult?"

Hahaha yes exactly.

It was when DD1 was about 7 months and we had won a holiday, believe it or not! We went in the room and immediately realised what the problem was going to be...

We hid behind the bed and she knew we were hiding behind the bed and the whole thing was ludicrous. Still after half an hour or so she seemed to give up wondering why we were hiding behind the bed and go to sleep Grin

Like I say, we don't do holidays any more Hmm

monkeymoma · 14/05/2012 21:02

because we are on a FAMILY holiday, so we want to be up early and bright eyed and bushy tailed to enjoy every minuite of it together as a family, the last thing I'ld want to do is "waste" it by being a bit hanging! plus BECAUSE we get up early and have lots of fun together during the day, it's not difficult to get to sleep at 9. At home in "real life" DH doesn't even get HOME till after 9 so it's nice to spend day times together and have early nights so we can get up and make lots of memories the next day

5madthings · 14/05/2012 21:03

well unless you lock your front door at all times then actually anyone can walk in to your house, i dont lock my front door until i go to bed often tbh.

why would random hotel staff want to go in your room? are people really so terrified that EVERYONE is out to get them or their children, whatever happened to believing in most people being of good nature.

in a small hotel, esp one like my cousins where the hotel was mainly booked out for other family members, and i could literally be back at the room in a minute, with a moniter that detects the tiniest amount of noise so i would have heard it anyone opened the door etc (well lights would flash up on the moniter and then i would go check) you wouldnt do it lequeen and thats your choice, equally its my choice that depending on the circumstances, i would do it if i thought it was reasonable, that doesnt make me any less of a parent or less committed to my children or their safety.

SardineQueen · 14/05/2012 21:03

Early night = 7 though and it's still light outside.

Lying in bed with the lights off staring at the ceiling (this was the last holiday we had, with 2 of them).

Maybe it will be different when they get a bit older and don't go to bed at 7.

CremeEggThief · 14/05/2012 21:05

Can I just ask are a lot of people saying no children who be left in hotel rooms, or are you talking about babies and under fives?

When DS was little, he was very adaptable, so we could have him out with us on holiday until midnight/ 1 a.m., and he would sleep in until 11 or so the next morning.

As he got older, we tended to opt for self-catering, with a few late nights out for meals, although more 11 p.m. than midnight.

Two years ago, we were stranded in Lanzarote because of the ash cloud. The tour operator put most of us from our s/c holiday village up in a hotel for a week, until we were allowed to fly. DS, aged 7, wanted to go to sleep in peace most nights about 10 p.m., so DH and I used to go down to the piano bar and enjoy a cocktail (yep, when you're trying to stick to 20 euro a day, treat yourselves to a cocktail :) for an hour or so. One or two nights, we didn't go and DS complained that we were too noisy and keeping him up! Last year in a hotel in Edinburgh, when it was he and I away for 2 nights, I went down one of them and had a glass of wine. When I got back, he was fast asleep.

Do some people really think this was wrong? Confused
I honestly think in all of my examples we or I did the best for all of us.

monkeymoma · 14/05/2012 21:06

people go into hotel rooms to rob stuff, this is common, I don't think most robbers are also paedos but still not keen on baby being alone in room with a thief! call me over protective if you like! Grin

5madthings · 14/05/2012 21:08

well monkey i am a night owl naturally, i still get up and get on with my day, no choice with 5 children, but i cannot go to sleep at 9pm at night, no matter how much i tried or if i did i would be awake at say 2am and unable to get back to sleep, the earliest i go to bed is 11pmish? occasionally 10:30 but generally more like midnight and then i am up at 6:30ish to start my day.

and my dp often works evenings and wkends, infact he gets one wkend off a month, so actually evenings time together is rare and to be enjoyed so no if we are away (when he actually manages to get holiday time!) then no i am not going to spend it sitting in the dark, whispering when i could be a few doors down having a drink and a nice relaxing evening, with moniter and checking in every 20 mins or so as i see fit, it all depends on the circumstances, and there are hotels i wouldnt do it in. tbh we normally go for self catering but will sit out int he garden on a terrace, etc i would be no further away in the hotel many times, you can ask specifically when you book your room to have one near to the bar/dining rm etc.

pumpkinsweetie · 14/05/2012 21:11

SardineQueen - why were your kids made to go to bed at 7 on holidayConfused?
Surely holidays and weddings routine can be looser
No wonder you were all climbing the walls, kids are adaptable and are welcome in most restaurants and bars until atleast 9 or even later

BoffinMum · 14/05/2012 21:13

Well, I've been robbed in a hotel room while asleep in there with my DD, and neither of us heard a thing ... I was just glad I had a nightie on tbh.

monkeymoma · 14/05/2012 21:14

well I work EVERY weekend and am a night person at home, but if we felt that having evenings out was what we needed the most we would use our holiday time to stay home and hire a babysitter in our own home and go out then, rather than drag DS off to some strange place to be left alone while we did just that!

or split our holiday in two, so a few days away where we were all together, then a couple of days either end where we were at home but got someone in in the evening so we could go out...

SardineQueen · 14/05/2012 21:14

They weren't made to go to bed at 7 Confused
They went to bed at 7 because they were tired.
They were very small, now they are a bit bigger they stay up a little later (but they are still early to bed types.
If I took my children out past bedtime when they were little there would be tears, and lots of them, and it would be awful.
If your children want to go to bed then you put them to bed. I wouldn't keep them up later because I wanted to stay up.

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