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AIBU?

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to go on the warpath over something this teacher said.

129 replies

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 09/05/2012 16:34

This happened last week but I only heard about it today.

DD1 takes German with the DD of a friend. Today I was at this friends for coffee and she asked me if my DD had told me about something that had happened in German last week. DD hadn't, so my friend informed me that according to her DD, the German teacher was poking fun at people with Aspergers, referring to them as retards and slagging off a 'friend' of his who has Aspergers, and reading out texts this friend had sent him encouraging the children to laugh at this poor bloke. He also referred to Aspergers as a disease of the brain.

I have spoken to DD and she confirms that this happened and said she wasn't comfortable at all because her brother, DS1 has Aspergers. DS1 as it happens, also has this teacher for German

It happened last week, but WIBU to make a big fuss to the school over this?

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igggi · 09/05/2012 17:46

Even if it is not in fact proven beyond doubt, the teacher will be spoken to and his card marked, so to speak.
(Also probably counts as harassment under the Equality Act)

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 17:51

It may well be he has a reputation for being unprofessional. That said, in my experience there are almost always two sides to every story. I would also prepare yourself for the fact that the school are not obliged to let you know how an investigation is being conducted or what the outcome is.

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 09/05/2012 17:52

I'm not worried they'll take it out on my DCs, it was my friend. Having said that, she said she'll come with me if I get to see the head teacher.

Are you a teacher igggi, that's similar to what my SIL said and she is also a teacher.

I've complained to the school before about dick head comments made by teachers. DD1s science teacher last year claimed that girls were naturally not as good at physics than boys.

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EclecticShock · 09/05/2012 17:52

Yes, if you feel it is proven without doubt.

olibeansmummy · 09/05/2012 17:57

I'd not stop til he was sacked!

ABatInBunkFive · 09/05/2012 18:02

'ABatInBunkFive And that's when you would be asked to leave'

Never happened yet. Wink

2shoes · 09/05/2012 18:09

I don't know why you have to ask
I would be kicking up such a stink he would be out of a job

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 18:17

ABatInBunkFive
Nothing to be proud of love

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 18:19

As much as ranting and raging parents THINK they have the power to 'get teachers sacked'.... they dont. You start shouting the odds, people stop taking you seriously, not the other way round. There are ways of dealing with situations/teachers like this. Shouting the ods is not one of them

ABatInBunkFive · 09/05/2012 18:22

What that i wont let a school or anyone else brush me off when there is a genuine concern Confused

I think it is actually.

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 18:24

ABatInBunkFive Am assuming that is how you usually deal with issues in the public domain.... or are teachers just fair game?

ABatInBunkFive · 09/05/2012 18:29

You are assuming what is how i deal with issues in the public domain?

Teachers are no different from any other professional, i don't put them on a pedestal, no, i think that there are many who do a fantastic job and i give them the recognition they deserve, some are indeed fair game for being pulled up on their failings yes.

NarkedPuffin · 09/05/2012 18:30

If this happened it's completely indefensible. I'd definitely report it to the school so it can be investigated.

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 18:32

but i''d rapidly escalate to full blown blazing state very quickly
I am simply responding to what you said.
As I said, if that is how you usually deal with issues in the public domain then that is your choice. From my perspective once a parent starts shouting the odds and becomes confontational they cease to be taken seriously

sparkina · 09/05/2012 18:33

Of course you complain. That's outrageous behavior from a teacher!!!!!!

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 09/05/2012 18:34

Definitely complain.

ABatInBunkFive · 09/05/2012 18:35

I never said i'd be shouting, we clearly have a different opinion on what constitutes all guns blazing. You carry on though if it makes you happy love.

ABatInBunkFive · 09/05/2012 18:36

The winky face must have completely passed you by aswell, as a hint it usually points to an element of tongue in cheek.

TheFallenMadonna · 09/05/2012 18:37

It sounds utterly bizarre. The students in my school would put him straight and complain if a teacher did that for sure.

catgirl1976 · 09/05/2012 18:39

YANBU. I would be speaking to the teacher and the school (you'd want to make sure this actually happened and wasn't some sort of misunderstanding / lost in translation thing) but if it did happen then this needs action.

manicbmc · 09/05/2012 18:39

Just make sure you put it in writing. They have to deal with it then and show you how they have dealt with it.

DogEared · 09/05/2012 18:40

I took "all guns blazing" to mean that bat would put her case across very clearly, making sure that the school knew that she was serious. Don't know why you seem to think this is unacceptable, Military Hmm

FallenCaryatid · 09/05/2012 18:41

I am a teacher, I have a son with AS.
I ma capable of being enraged by disablism , but I am also capable of collecting my evidence, organising my argument and fighting a very structured campaign.
Which is why I always advocate communicating by email or letter, following up telephone or verbal conversations with written backup of whatthat was said or agreed and being very nit-picking about the languages and promises used by schools to deflect the need to change.
So, go in, start civil and expressing concern as to how shocked you are to hear this, how you are surprised that such an excellent school is allowing this and hoping for a swift resolution to the problem.
Then nail their feet to the floor with reasoned argument and references to the school's policy on disability. If they seem unsure of what they can do, the LEA has an inclusion team that can be called in to support staff who are uncertain about how children with a disability should be treated at all times, and the language that is appropriate to use when referring to individuals with a disability.
Offer to give them a ring if the school thinks they will not cope.
Then tell them you will be keeping an eye on the situation as long as your children attend the school.
Do't cry, get shouty or irrational. The angrier I am the colder and more reasonable I am. It works well as a strategy.

MilitaryWag · 09/05/2012 18:41

ABatInBunkFive
Tongue in cheek.... or something someone is feeling a little bit chuffed about Hmm
Not sure how else but i''d rapidly escalate to full blown blazing state very quickly could be interpreted but hey ho, my mistake obviously.

catgirl1976 · 09/05/2012 18:42

"All guns blazing" doesn't mean shouting an bawling to me FWIW.

It means going in with steely determination to have something dealt with to my satisfaction, not being fobbed off or backing down and ensuring that it is resolved in a manner I am happy with.