To agree that employers don't want fat employees

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2138551/Get-job-size-Fat-chance-After-160-interviews-job-offer-Louisa-says-CV-s-letting--curves.html

Sorry, it's from the DM. But doesn't the woman have a point? She would stand a better chance of getting a job if she lost weight. I was made redundant and claimed JSA for a few weeks before getting a temping job, I noticed that a lot of the people claiming JSA were fat.

No it's not sad at all! What is really tragic is allowing DCs to grow up thinking that everyone will be kind and charitable to them all their lives. Commercial reality is not like that and it's best to know it or your DCs will have some nasty shocks in store.

Thin and attractive is a job qualification for receptionists. What's wrong with that?

Bonsoir and her dp are simply proving that these attitudes do exist, and not only do they exist, but the people who hold these views believe they are justified in doing so, because it is 'business reality'. They do not have the strength of character to try and oppose these views.

Very sad, and immoral.

It's not immoral, belgo. Customers go to businesses to buy what they want in circumstances they enjoy. If that includes giving them a sales person with whom they can identify, that's what business gives them (or else they go out of business).

Bonsoir your views are morally wrong and I feel sorry for your children. Your placement of looks above other qualities is sickening. You may think that you are preparing your children for the world, but you yourself are part of that world.

I know you are not going to agree with me so I cannot be bothered to argue with you any more.

I cannot agree with you Belgo because you are confusing business and charity.

Oh well done fucking Daily Mail, yet another article setting women up to bitch about how another woman looks.

Gleeful wankers some people on this thread.

Our receptionist is not young and thin, she is attractive however. She receives people very well, and knows our frankly incomprehensible (to me) phone system inside out.

I do see Bonsior's point about not wanting to buy face cream off a 17 year old boy. I often think that when you see an anti aging cream being advertised by model who looks about 10.

There are positions where how you look is important. I wouldn't use a personal trainer who was fat or get my hair done by someone with crap hair.

It is complicated, but there are laws to make sure people/corporations are not just being shits as well.

I think ypung, thin and attractive has always been the requirements for receptionists in high profile companies. It may be wrong but they are the first people customers and clients meet and first impressions are the most important.

It is not charity to give someone a job if they are capable and qualified to do that job.

But being a 17 year old boy with acne is not a qualification for selling face cream to 35+ women.

it's really fucking irritating that people that post using a DM article always appologise first. ffs. loads of people on here read the bloody rag including lots that say they don't. it is a bloody annoying newspaper in many ways but it is equally annoying when an op starts off their post appolosing, so much faking & snobbery

But is a 17 year old boy with acne capable of selling anti-aging (I assume) cream to older women? I wouldn't take any advice offered from him.

I work for one of the big mining companies Samuel we are not exactly shrinking violets, though there has been a push to try to sell it as a more 'people friendly' company. Snort.

I agree, it is probably fair more to do with her attitude than her size, she is not that big at all.
Perhaps she has a massive sense of entitlement, what with her previous "six figure salary" and all, and looked down on the skinny HR girl.

I cannot believe that was the best 'thin' picture of her they could find though!! you can even see the light reflecting off it where they have just taken a bloody photo of it themselves to put in the article!

jeez you can even see the frame of the photo in the top right!! they didn't even take it out of the frame.
and why did she have such a bad photo of herself in a frame anyway?!

I suspect she has not actually been thin since 1980..

I think this woman was on Daybreak this morning talking about this?

I was too busy making packed lunches and rushing the kids out the door to watch it though.

I'm a receptionist. I can agree to some extent that organisations like someone attractive or polished on their Reception, they are trying to create an image. Many years ago maybe that is what they saw in me. I doubt it now though, years of working with this lot has aged me!! The past two companies that have employed me specifically looked for someone 25+ because they wanted maturity and experience of dealing with people and someone who could handle difficult directors and not be walked over.

I think with regards to 'fat' people, the concern employers have is that their obesity could eventually contribute to health problems which will require them to take time off work.

Total crap. Usual DM standard, along with the 'sad face' photos.

JaneFonda - "she's had two years to get help for comfort eating" - what help you imagine she should have got? Maybe you think she should have gone to the GP, been prescribed some therapy, regular meetings with a nutritionist, help towards gym membership or exercise classes.... pshaw. No one's going to help her unless she makes private arrangements (and pays for them). And she's out of work.

You never thought there might be reasons some people on JSA are fat?

Whoops.

I do think 'thin and pretty' may be an unwritten requirement for receptionists. But then, go back not so many years, and 'thin, pretty, and not black/Irish/Asian' were also unwritten (and written!) requirements. I'm not convinced it's a great idea to suggest people should be judged by how their bodies look.

I can't believe that she can't find a job with all of her qualifications, there has to be some reason. I hate to say it but I think she might be right?! A lot of people are on the big side, it's quite normal in the UK I thought so I wouldn't have thought it would be an issue but perhaps it is. Confused on this one!

I have been fat and I have been thin and I can tell you many people do treat you entirely differently when you're fat. I have a pHD and I can't tell you how many people have actually incredulously said "what- YOU have a PhD!!" to me when I was fat. No one ever batted an eyelid when I was thin.
It's partly because a lot of slim people feel subconsciously superior to fat people. You get talked down to a lot when you're fat but I bet they don't even know they are doing it. It is different once you get to know people they treat you normally then but on first appearances you are judged.
I am now on the fat side of normal and have learnt to ignore it.
I have severe PCOS and losing weight is not easy but gaining is a piece of piss.

She is hardly "fat". Something else is going on with her I'd bet.

carernotasaint I have to agree with you in regards to bullying. I am fat, 33 and wear a size 26. Not once has a woman ever commented on my weight where as all the abuse comments aimed at me have been made by men. Whether it be a fellow shopper (he spilt a drink on the floor and blamed the fat cunt in front of him - me) , white van man (dozens of theses), gangs of young lads driving a souped up shit car, or the customers I serve in pubs. All have been male. Women don't tend to take pleasure in abusing strangers that way.

I think this is probably more about her attitude to herself - she obviously doesn't like the way she looks.

I cant really see a problem with the way she looks and cant imagine it would stop people employing her if she is as good as she says - I suspect in fact her own self esteem has taken a battering and she is putting that across in interviews.