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to plant a hazelnut tree when my friends son has a nut allergy?

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willikillhim · 02/05/2012 10:11

my good friends ds has a nut allergy. he comes round to play at our house a fair bit. I want to plant a hazelnut tree in the garden, but obviously dont want to if it will trigger his allergy. Is it just ingestion which causes the reaction, or could playing in the garden where there is a nut tree do it also?

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willikillhim · 02/05/2012 12:09

thanks baby ill give them a ring- although ive almost decided ithink, not to plant one

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willikillhim · 02/05/2012 12:11

i think that is different soup because they are contained within the bowl? and not squashed and blown and trodden about like ones on the ground?
Also, as soon as a realise the nuts are out and he is round, I put them away of course

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imnotmymum · 02/05/2012 12:11

bowls of nuts that give out their essence !! How can someone know where all the nut trees are in all the world and avoid walking past them if they have anut allergy ??

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 12:11

Well if she does, she's playing nut roulette Grin

Just found this -

Is my child likely to have a severe reaction from casual contact with tree nuts on benches, other children's hands or by smelling tree nuts?

No. There is no research to confirm that severe reactions from can occur by touching or smelling tree nuts without nut ingestion. Some people can develop localised symptoms e.g. hives where the nut touches the skin and this has the same meaning as a positive skin test. A small proportion of nut allergic people are sensitive to such small amounts of nuts that they may develop symptoms from eating trace amounts of nuts, and perhaps this is why some people have been thought to react to ?touching? nuts. Some very sensitive people may develop wheezing if they inhale nut vapours formed during cooking, however this is extremely rare.

Never read such utter bollox in my life - ds ended up in hospital after just touching my hand after I had been eating nuts.

End of rant Grin

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 12:13

OP I think the fact the bowls of nuts are 'contained' make it better iykwim?

willikillhim · 02/05/2012 12:13

a person cant mymum but they can avoid the ones they are aware of- and I dont want these friends to have to avoid us

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/05/2012 12:15

Your bowl of nuts is far more dangerous than one solitary brand-new tree that might not bear a single identifiable nut for several years. Do try to get the risks in proportion.

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 12:16

The OP has said the nuts get put away when friend comes.

SoupDragon · 02/05/2012 12:17

But the bowls of nut aren't contained. Surely there are traces on peoples hands etc.

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 12:18

Well hopefully they wash their hands are eating them IF the boy is coming to play - that is what we do at home.

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 12:19

after

Floggingmolly · 02/05/2012 12:21

Elinor we are plagued with squirrels and we have a postage stamp sized garden in the middle of London - no woodland within miles.
I'd happily live without them.

NeitherShreddedNorSmug · 02/05/2012 12:24

amillionyears - I flew recently, and there was an announcement that one of the crew had a nut allergy, so please could passengers refrain from eating nuts.

willi - thank you for starting this thread.

willikillhim · 02/05/2012 12:30

Your bowl of nuts is far more dangerous than one solitary brand-new tree that might not bear a single identifiable nut for several years. Do try to get the risks in proportion

well thats why I started the thread huh, cogito

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willikillhim · 02/05/2012 12:34

i dont leave the bowls of nuts around willy-nilly on purpose. I endevour not to have bowls of nuts out, when he is round. What I am saying is, it seems like sods-law, that when he comes round, I always seem to find a stray bowl hiding somewhere.

its probably not as often as all that, just feels like it, because I notice it, in a memerable way-because of the potential danger my slovenly house-keeping is posing

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CharminglyOdd · 02/05/2012 13:02

I have a hazelnut allergy... it's (according to the consultant I saw) part of a wider family of 'birch pollen'. My particular type of allergy (not anaphylactic) means I get bad hayfever symptoms and my mouth will swell up/I'll get hives on my arms if I start picking the fruit etc.

All of that is controlled with lots of antihystamine and avoiding plants in the family as much as possible. As long as you get him to promise not to climb/pick fruit it may not affect him any more than hayfever... however I think everyone reacts differently. Depends how willing his Mum is to experiment Grin

Lac365 · 02/05/2012 13:28

After seeing my DN go into Anaphylactc shock and nearly loosing him, I would say DO NOT get the tree.

He has had reactions to suncream with nut extract in it, meaning it's topical and not just injested nut extract that can cause an effect.

DON'T DO IT. The risk is just too great. It's that serious.
btw you sound like a lovely friend

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 13:37

Lac ds's very first reaction was to sunscreen, for a year we thought it was that he was allergic to, then after a huge reaction where he ended up in hospital we realised it was nuts. Fucking scary isn't it?

Lac365 · 02/05/2012 13:42

VERY, VERY SCAREY!

Lots of posts on here from people who don't understand nut allergies.

Until someone you care for has gone into anaphylactic shock it's very hard to
appreciate how life threatnig it is. I'm in tears here just thinking about it.

The life of a nut allergy sufferer can be taken away so quickly, often because of ignorance.

DON'T GET THE FRIGGING TREE.

valiumredhead · 02/05/2012 13:46

Actually the older ds gets the more aware I have become as he goes out on his own now and generally has more freedom.

Yesterday at school his well meaning friend offered him Bombay Mix as he was sure it didn't have nuts luckily ds said he'd better not as he likes to try new things at home - THANK GOD!

Now I get all worried about his first kiss and wether all the joy will be sapped out of it because he'll be asking wether she had Crunchy Nut Cornflakes for breakfast

Lac365 · 02/05/2012 13:56

valium - gosh, hadn't even thought of kissing! Sounds like your DS is a very sensible young man. It's such a worry though isn't it.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 02/05/2012 13:58

"The life of a nut allergy sufferer can be taken away so quickly, often because of ignorance."

Genuine question to reduce level of ignorance. If you were to take a walk in the countryside or a park with a nut allergic person would you be sweeping the paths ahead and analysing the leaf litter in case nuts had fallen from surrounding trees? Are beech nuts going to cause a problem? Chestnuts? Pine cones? Has there ever been a case of someone being killed or made extremely unwell because they walked past a nut tree or trod on a filbert?

babybarrister · 02/05/2012 14:05

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squeakytoy · 02/05/2012 14:13

For those saying dont get the tree.. do your children stay indoor or go out encased in a plastic bubble?

I know, and knew as a child, that I didnt like getting stung by nettles... so I stayed away from nettles.

People with allergies to bee and wasp stings manage to cope in gardens.

I have a friend with a severe nut allergy but she still goes into parks, and supermarkets, and restaurants...

The nut on the tree, if it ever actually bears any in the next decade or so, will be inside it's shell.

You would not be able to stop your neighbour getting a hazlenut tree, and it would be just as easy for any wildlife to carry the nuts and drop them in your garden.

Get the bloody tree.

amillionyears · 02/05/2012 14:21

squeakytoy, unfortunately people with allergies to bee and wasp stings do not always manage to cope in gardens.
The op would like her friend and her friend's DS to come round in comfort.