to be amused that the more exclusive a school is..

[seeker]

.. by faith, fees, ability, aptitude..whatever- the more diverse a community the school's parents say it is.

TOSN you wouldn't say that if you saw the slugs in my garden there as long as pencils. Completely revolting and eating all my plants.
Anyway why does it have to turn into a slanging match.

Once again, happy gardener, you presume to understand my motives. And once again you are wrong. If you actually read the op, you will see that I was talking about selective schools generally- faith and grammar included.

Yes but are you more outraged because it actually causes a problem in your home?

Just wondering, as it's clearly something you have strong feelings on.

Completely agree with OhDoAdmitMrsDV. Really shocked at the post by marriedinwhite that appears to say her son has learned about diversity via being mugged.

I hate the term indie school too .

If that makes me a bigot , I don't care

If Morissey set up a free school it would be elusive.

If we accepted the premise that racist attacks are carried out by children who went to comprehensive school, the we are saying its more likely that the ninety three % do them than the other. Ok, possible. Could it maybe be that the other 7% are the children who might have the background more likely to lead there, rather than making some tenuous connection between going to comprehensive school and becoming a racist attacker?

"So: we can't say that most racist offences are committed by people who went to comps, but we can say that parents who choose private education do so because they're snobs" did anyone actually say that?

Waiting for your apology, reactionary fish, by the way.

Way to miss the point, TOSN.

DS goes to a non-selective, state single-sex, almost exclusively white, vair vair middle-class with professional-parents comprehensive, in a World Heritage Site medium-sized town in the South West of England, with very low average wages. and some of the UK's most expensive properties.

We encourage most kids into Oxbridge and RG Unis our children into appropriate higher education courses, and particularly excell in fencing and shooting a variety of sporting activities.

What You See On the Tin is not always What You Get. Dead Demotic Demographic, us.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/education/school_tables/secondary/11/html/bacc_886.stm?compare=

watch where the results fall of a cliff scrolling down that page.

Tufty
But it would be charming

This whole racist attacks from comps converstaion is horrible. Really dredging the bottom of the barrel that one is.

Elusive, or exclusive? Probably both, actch.

The slugs round here are babies still. Little bastards.

Ok, you're not... Belle and Sebastian. It's private, not indie. That's all.

Whats a secondary modern I've only ever heard of comprehensives and grammars.
And who the hell are the "smiths"?
Ok wont use the term indie and more independent education is by far and away the best, how does that grab you?

What's the point I missed?

Nick Griffin went to an "indie".

Secondary modern is the name for the state funded schools for children who don't get a grammar place,

I have read the whole thread, just wished to return to the original point - true diversity in all forms is very hard to achieve.
Last school i taught in was very non diverse, all poor, mostly non-working, whites
current school again very non- diverse, very very few students on FSM's (

The smiths were an eighties popular singing combo of some note, m'lud

"Nick Griffin went to an "indie".
So obviously all children form independent ed. must be screaming racists as well as snobs.

Chapter and Verse on Grammar Schools, Secondary Moderns Technical Schools (still exist in Lincolnshire) and Comprehensive schools
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_system_of_education_in_England,_Wales_and_Northern_Ireland

God love you, seeker. The point is this; a bigoted remark, to the effect that racist attackers more likely to be comp educated (not quite what was said, but let that pass for now) gets jumped all over. other bigoted remarks - to the effect that a privately educated parent must have chosen that route out of snobbery - is perfectly fine, indeed defended to the hilt even when it's pointed out that the reason for the choice was the very reverse of something trivial like snobbery.
Why the contrast?

Happy, in 11+ areas you get grammar schools, which aim to take the top 25ish%, and then the schools that children go to if they don't pass the 11+. Those are secondary modern, or high schools.

Comps are in areas where they aim to cater for all children regardless of ability. Then you have super selective grammar schools which are not in grammar areas and are surrounded by comps. These grammars are usually few and far between, allowing the comps to be truly comprehensive, and they tend to take the top 5ish%.

You don't know who The Smiths are? No way. Am I that old? Shit.

I meant elusive because I was being funny. Charming's good though. A charming, elusive school. That would look great on a poster. I'm going to set up a school.

Just pointing out that racism isn't exclusive to the private sector.