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To not give a fuck about schools?

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sensuallettuce · 20/04/2012 21:13

AIBU to be totally hacked off with this subject every bloody year.

I don't care that Saffron didn't get into your first choice school even though the local school is varie good she just isn't "suited" to that "environment" all the council estate kids Hmm.

It's such thinly veiled snobbery and competitive parenting at its very worst. Kids should go to the local school end of and if there is a grammar system state educated kids should be permitted to take the entrance exam (not privately educated kids who are trained to pass an exam) and this should be means tested.

I live in one of the most competitive school areas of the country with a massive social divide (Poole in Dorset). Because of this I ended up with all 3 kids at 3 different schools for 3 yrs Hmm.

How can people bang on about the state providing a perfectly good education then spend an extra £50,000 on a house in the "right" area. It's hypocritical snobby bollocks.

Kids will learn if they want to. I do not believe any of them have faired any better or worse due to my non choice of school. They are fulfilling who they are.

They have a loving home and are well balanced grounded kids and they know if I believe they have been "wronged" I am behind them 100%, if they have done "wrong" I am behind the school. I a, supportive of and interested in their education.

We all need to bloody calm down about this seriously Hmm

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K999 · 20/04/2012 21:15

You sound like you may need to calm down Grin

usualsuspect · 20/04/2012 21:15

I agree

Thank fuck I live in a comprehensive area

sparkle12mar08 · 20/04/2012 21:18

"Kids will learn if they want to" Yes I totally agree. However there are indeed some truly crap schools staffed by truly crap teachers, and there is not a cat in hells chance I would send my child to one of them if it could be avoided, including by moving house. Any childs chances are improved by a better school with better staff, and all children should have a chance at one. So YABU, sometimes it is snobbery and hypocrisy, often it's not.

wheremommagone · 20/04/2012 21:19

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sensuallettuce · 20/04/2012 21:20

Crap teachers teach at crap schools.

There wouldn't be crap schools if we just relied on our natural geography and went to the closest school?

There would be a good mix everywhere.

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festi · 20/04/2012 21:21

yeah

perceptionreality · 20/04/2012 21:21

YABU - it's a personal issue, you shouldn't judge. It's very hard letting kids go off to school for some people. Just ignore the threads about admission places (shrugs)

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sensuallettuce · 20/04/2012 21:23

It's part if our materialistic society and a need for parents to boast and brag and for their child to be "the best" and for the parent to be able to tell everyone that.

It's nothing to do with the child happiness.

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festi · 20/04/2012 21:23

I agree even more with your last statement, thats sums up the state of affairs pretty well, also prevent the crap teachers from entering the system before they have qualified.

BarryBumlove · 20/04/2012 21:25

YANBU, I completely agree

southeastastra · 20/04/2012 21:26

it's all a bit mental isn't it

K999 · 20/04/2012 21:26

I don't get why it is materialistic to boast about getting your child into a state school?

GrahamTribe · 20/04/2012 21:28

YANBU to think that about your children. You would be very unreasonable to want me to think as you do about mine. And YABU to say that children "should" go to their local school. It's unacceptable to expect parents to be forced to send their child to a school which is dire even if it is the local school.

Deadsouls · 20/04/2012 21:28

OP - I think you are being a little bit U. I think you're having a poke at what you perceive to be a certain type of people. I mean good for you and all that, but not really your business. If you're happy that's great, but some people do really care about it, and they are entitled.

picnicbasketcase · 20/04/2012 21:28

The best teacher I know works in what most of you would consider to be a crap school and the worst teacher (now thankfully retired) worked in the most popular and oversubscribed school in the area. It's not always that case that a school in a poor area, bad ofsted reports etc will automatically have shit teachers.

Deadsouls · 20/04/2012 21:29

I would also not want my DCs to go to a shit local school.

madmouse · 20/04/2012 21:30

We've just moved house. After the application deadline. ds now has a school place in the wrong town but same LA. To get a local school place in this catchment area he now needs to compete with everyone who has a school place in this town but is not happy about it Confused.

Thankfully it's a backup plan because hopefully he will get his Special School place.

ComposHat · 20/04/2012 21:31

It's part if our materialistic society and a need for parents to boast and brag and for their child to be "the best" and for the parent to be able to tell everyone that.

Yep I agree, in many cases it is parents having a hissy fit as they haven't got exactly what they want and their child will go to another completely fine school. It seems to be a fettish for the chattering classessm underpinned by an assupmption that the 'best school' will magically turn their academically average child into a genius.

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sensuallettuce · 20/04/2012 21:32

Entitled to what?

If there is to be choice we should all have choice or all not surely?

If someone can't afford to move but say for example works as a nurse and someone who can afford to say a businessman - why should he have more choice than the nurse working equally to support his family.

We are all entitled to privately educate our kids yes.

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porcamiseria · 20/04/2012 21:33

i know what you mean

that said I felt so upset for the parents (mainly richmond!) that did not even get a place, they must be so worried

but the whole MC moving house to get away from schools with even a sniff of council kids make my fucking teeth HURT!

southeastastra · 20/04/2012 21:33

i think i agree

Magneto · 20/04/2012 21:34

There is an advert in my local paper for an art teaching position in a "challenging school". That is the exact wording of the advert. Normally don't they describe these things as "lively" Grin, it seems they want prospective teachers to know what they're letting themselves in for.

Everyone where I live knows which school this is even though it's not named in the advert. "Challenging" is being kind. It has had tonnes of money thrown at it in recent years and been "rebranded" but nothing changes the fact that it is a shit school.

I would pay anything and move anywhere to avoid having to send my child to that school so YABU but I would hope schools like that are in the minority (they certainly are where I live) so in general YANBU.

Am I on the fence enough do you think? Grin

usualsuspect · 20/04/2012 21:35

'but the whole MC moving house to get away from schools with even a sniff of council kids make my fucking teeth HURT'

This

wheremommagone · 20/04/2012 21:36

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AThingInYourLife · 20/04/2012 21:36

"Kids should go to the local school end of"

Well that would be lovely, wouldn't it?

So why are you giving out about parents whose children haven't got into any of the nearest 6 schools to them and who have either been offered no place, or a school miles away from where they live?

If you actually read the threads you are moaning about (and if you don't read them, then what the fuck are you complaining about?) you will know that there are lots of homes are are not in the catchment area for any school.

So telling those parents that their children "should go to the local school, end of" is rather pointless, wouldn't you say?

They'd be fucking delighted if that were the case.

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