to think mm will flame you if ...

[ScarlettAlexandra]

you have any point at all.

even if someone is being nice, and god help them if they mention the elderly or disabled.

where is the sisterhood, awaits the grilling ;)

YABU and entitled!...

no i agree

has always been that way, think it's still important for people to say what they want to

whats mm?

mn doh stupid phone.

YABU, and talking bollocks.

"MN" doesn't flame anyone, individuals disagree. If they disagree with you then maybe you are wrong, or maybe you have explained yourself badly, or maybe they are wrong, but in no case is it "Mumsnet" as an entity that disagrees with you.

"The sisterhood" is a stupid concept, there is no reason why I should agree with someone or back them up just because we both have two X chromosomes. I should agree with someone or back them up based on whether I think they are right.

you can be nice and get your point across. no?

The Bitches of Mumsnet The Sistahood is coming' to get ya!

Far side of fuck
WTAF
Cunt cunt cunt. etc

YABU I think every AIBU I have posted has been nice and friendly - even the one where I called everyone who posts in AIBU a wank badger

I'm sure if you were called 'retarded' someone would have quite rightly come along and said retarded is a totally inappropriate word and it would have all gone off on another tangent.

lmao poppa.

you could post about stroking baby lambs and singing lullabyes and still be hammered. its funny really.

Mumsnet isn't an entity that can act in a certain way. It's like real life where the majority are ok, some are exceptionally nice and some are incredibly twattish.

Please don't lump me in with the DM readers, twatbadgers and foolishly indignant, thanks.

IMO sometimes you need that kind of truth. Not sugar coated affirmations of your own voice. I usually come on here when I feel like I need someone to tell me to sort myself out because I know IABU!

Babyheave don't think anyone could've said it better.

I suggest that if you cannot cope with life that you stay inside and lock your doors. Because in that big bad world out there you get all kinds of people from all walks of life. How many members of Mumsnet are there? 2 million? In that 2 million you will get some lovely, supportive people and you will get some twats.

You cannot expect to be a member of a very busy and popular forum such as Mumsnet and get treated with kid gloves. People use Mumsnet not only to offer support and advice but to air their opinions. Women in general are mainly told to look pretty and act stupid. There hasn't really been a forum where we can air our opinions and be taken seriously, no matter what we look like and where we come from. So for most women, coming on here provides an outlet for all kinds of views.

I am surprised that anyone can get away with calling someone else 'retarded' on Mumsnet without a severe flaming and a swift deletion.

If you want to see examples of so-called 'sisterhood' then look in relationships, the ante-natal groups and the miscarriage support groups. However you cannot expect people to agree with you just because you happen to be the same sex as them (and not all members of Mumsnet are women anyway), that's a patronising view in itself. Why should I pander to your views just because you're a woman?

Yes you can be nice and get your point across and the majority manage this quite well on a regular basis. But not everyone is 'nice' I'm afraid to say and if you only want to mix with people who are nicey nicey and who never challenge anything you say then you are on the wrong forum and living in the wrong world.

you could post about stroking baby lambs and singing lullabyes and still be hammered

Quite right too. There's plenty of other places to be posting that sort of Fluffy Shyte.

I agree with BusinessTrills.

These "isn't mumsnet shit so I'm going to post about it on mumsnet" threads are rather yawnsome.

I'd never before seen badger used as a term of abuse. Well well well, you learn something every day.

What HappyJustToBe and BusinessTrills said. If they hate it so much, why don't they just feck off? But they never do.

the vast majority of threads don't involve a flaming. It would all be desperately dull if everyone agreed. Other fora exist if you want that sort of environment.

YABU. I posted a whiny, grumpy AIBU last week that basically implied criticism of many property-owning 40-somethings on MN. While quite a few disagreed, very few flamed.

MN is second to none for its reason and good sense.

Take this thread as a great example. She hasn't been flamed or insulted despite making a sweeping generalisation about Mumsnetters. She has been told that she can go elsewhere which is a fair point to make and the points she made have been disagreed with and debated on a little.

No insults, no flaming, just reasonable opinions and fair points.

But Maryz there are only, really, 2 pubs to go to - why should she change when a vocal minority is spoiling her drink and chat with the other, very pleasant drinkers?

If you go to specific threads there is so much support and care - clearly not people who are spoiling for a fight and who get all jittery when anyone criticises MN.

There seems to be a prolific-posting minority who are trying to dictate to the majority and also trying to influence other posters who deem them to be "special" in some kind of MN way (as witnessed by the number of "who is your favourite MNer" threads which is really primary school playground stuff)

I think OPs point is that on certain threads, no matter how civilly or articulately a reasonable point is made, there are people really looking for evilness in the post and are ready to flame.

for the uninitiated, it's really quite a mean place.

but i know that you, and many others, will totally disagree so perhaps i should just sent myself of to the far side of fuck.

ps that's another thing - why oh why oh why to certain MNers feel the NEED to use certain MN phrases??? it's just soooo needy to feel like you somehow are a member of the gang if you use them....it does make me laugh.