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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

OP posts:
Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:14

We are technically allowed children at our smear tests, but the nurse said that it doesn't tend to work very well as the woman tense up and it's harder/hurts more. I can confirm that one! They didn't offer a wide range of apt times - the nurse is part time Hmm so had to bring DS, he played with his cars with his back to me but it was really hard to un-clench knowing he was there, a buggy wouldn't have aided my unclenching though

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:14

and why on earth is it any different taking one's child in when one is having a smear, as compared to any other procedure? Confused

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:14

But CremeEggs I thought you said to take the car seat to the doctors?

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:16

sorry, cremeegg, cross-posted. OK, the clenching thing. Hmmm. Maybe. But say you were getting blood pressure checked - wouldn't that be inflated when one's child was present, then?

working9while5 · 10/04/2012 11:16

"Strapping them in pushchairs, So much easier than parenting!"

It's not an Olympic event. Having a smear/sweep and stretch while "parenting" has never been something I've aspired to!

choceyes · 10/04/2012 11:16

It's not much use at all SQ. A baby that can sit still in a bumbo can sit still in your arms. A baby that would wriggle out of your arms, will also wriggle out of a bumbo - or worse fill themselves over and that is not good.

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:17

brdgirl - surely ANY sort of child seat/bouncer that's but on top of a table is unsafe?

I'm not a fan of bumboos myself but know that other's swear by them and was just suggestion one of many ways of thinking outside the buggy/box - there are other things you can bring - folding high chair maybe?

sherbetpips · 10/04/2012 11:17

Has always been the way at our surgery, simply isnt room for push chairs. Do you really go to the surgery that often that this is such a big issue for you? Yes it will be a pain to carry them/let them crawl around but its hardly like Tesco's suddenly announced no pushchairs is it?

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:17

CremeEggs the point is that because I had young children and no childcare I could not have a smear
Because I had small children and no childcare I was unable to access the mental health services that I needed

See?

All this talk of - you should do it like this, you should do it like that, it's not a problem for ME... The point is that for some people it is a problem and the outcome is that people are unable to access services that they need. Which is a problem.

bigjoeent · 10/04/2012 11:17

Cremeegg, I agree with you some ideas will work for some, some of the time but not for others. Its a bit like parenting in general...

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:20

Sardine, car seat is an option, sling is an option, bumboo is an option, bag of toys/books is an option, pocket high chair to strap them in while on exam table is an option, do what you like! except your buggy, because that ISN'T AN OPTION any more at many surgeries , so lets think of some CONSTRUCTIVE alternatives eh! Because it is more doable than most of us realise!

oopsi · 10/04/2012 11:21

having a smear is what, once every three years? And you can't find someone to watch them for an hour once every three years.

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:23

brdgirl - surely ANY sort of child seat/bouncer that's but on top of a table is unsafe?
yes, but the bumbo has a poor safety record, and not only when placed on elevated surfaces. no-one should recommend this product to anyone, frankly. but that's a separate issue, i guess - just one of my bug-bears. The issue at hand is that it is totally impractical to sugggest taking one with you to a surgery.

I'm not a fan of bumboos myself but know that other's swear by them and was just suggestion one of many ways of thinking outside the buggy/box - there are other things you can bring - folding high chair maybe?
now you're just being silly on purpose, right? I walk a mile to my surgery. shall i take a folding highchair with me now too?

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:25

CremeEggs I was unable to go and get assistance with my undiagnosed depression and anxiety because (as posted earlier)

changing bag
babe in arms
handbag
young toddler
stairs
dodgy legs
depression and anxiety

Just wasn't going to happen was it!

Your attitude that I should have just pulled my finger out and got on with it is helpful, to be sure. Fact is though that there are women who are unable to access services that they need because of these problems, just because you are oh so clever and have all the answers doesn't actually help them does it.

Oopsi I get called for smears annually.

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:26

It's not just a smear though is it

People have all sort of things going on

6 week check
smear
jabs for children
appts for ongoing issues
appts for things that come up
mental health issues
and so on

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 11:27

You could ditch either your handbag or the changing bag...

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:28

Sardine, car seat is an option, sling is an option, bumboo is an option, bag of toys/books is an option, pocket high chair to strap them in while on exam table is an option,

Agreed, parents may have no choice but to find options, but these are NOT all options for most or indeed any but the most ridiculous parents.
Car seat - not an option. I don't drive. If you are suggesting that I buy a BIGGER travel system to replace my tiny stroller, so that it can carry a car seat...silly.
Sling - my DD is too big for a sling, I think, even if I were able to use one with my hip condition, which I definitely am not.
Bumbo - yeah. covered this. I'm not taking my DD to the surgery in order to allow her to sustain a head injury.
Toys/books - not a no-fail option and do almost nothing to keep a child restrained which sometimes is necessary for safety. I don't care if my DD is bored. I care if she is safe.
High chair - yeah, right.

choceyes · 10/04/2012 11:28

Those pocket highchair things are so useless in a mealtime. A friend has it and I borrowed it once and I couldn't get my DD anywhere near the table for her to eat. I guess it is OK if you are spoonfeeding your baby, but if they are self feeding it is completely useless.

Sorry....off topic rant!

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:31

claireall wow THANKS

If only I had combined those two bags, which were obviously by far the most major issue, everything would have been fine!

Silly old me!

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:31

"but these are NOT all options for most or indeed any but the most ridiculous parents."

??
I get that you don't like bumboos
but what is ridiculous about pocket high chairs?, decanting handbag/change bags?, travel systems? (yes they cause the same problem to a slightly lesser extend, and some people don't have them, but many DO and those that do and can, which is many, could use them as an alternative to bringing the whole buggy up!)?

how are these not things that many parents could do? In the context of parents that are able to push buggies remember!

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 11:34

Every little helps, sardine. :)

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:34

Because the main problems (for me anyway) were

mobility issues combined with babe in arms & young toddler combined with depression and anxiety

Arseing about with bumboos (which are something to do with glamour modelling, assume you mean Bumbo as someone else has posted) and car seats makes sod all difference.

There are lots of women with twins, children close together, mental and / or physical health issues or even who are just not coping very well who find that these rules make it basically impossible for them to go to the doctor. That is not good, is it.

Is anyone arguing that this is good? Or just enjoying explaining why things are easy for them?

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:35

Are you taking the piss, claire?

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