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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

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SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 10:59

I also don't understand all this car seat business.

Not everyone has a car seat. I also didn't think you were supposed to keep children in them for long periods of time?

Do people mean that they buy travel systems even if they don't have cars and then wheel the baby around in the car seat attached to the pushchair?

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 10:59

Most parents don't have twins - that is pretty factual. I don't need to know all the parents in the UK to know that!

Most aren't depressed at any one time.

Most don't have mobility issues.

What a silly thing to argue about!

Originalplurker · 10/04/2012 11:00

Carrying a bumbo is a ridiculous idea.

If they can't sit up unsupported they should be allowed in in their buggy.

2shoeskickedtheeasterbunny · 10/04/2012 11:00

learningtofly thay cannot ban wheelchairs, ho many signs they put up saying it as that is ilegal

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:01

So the solution seems to be

You must be of sound body and mind
You must not have too many children too close together, or twins
You must buy a travel system, even if you have no car and cannot afford one
Alternatively wear a sling, even if for some reason you do not use a sling

Then everything will be fine.

That's solved that one, then Grin

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:01

Sardine I suggested them to the thread in general, YOU picked up on the M&P aspect of my suggestion and blew it out of proportion. As I said I only mentioned M&P as I KNOW they can fit them, but other brands probably do too and if they don't fit the basket they could be hung off the back

might not be helpful for you but might be for someone else who is wondering how to manage at the GP's with no buggy okay?

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:02

Claireall I refer you to my previous post.

There is no point having services that cater only for the people who by definition don't need them as much.

That really is a silly thing to argue.

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:03

But what is a bumboo? What is it for, how will it help?

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:04

"Do people mean that they buy travel systems even if they don't have cars and then wheel the baby around in the car seat attached to the pushchair?"

yes! if you have a car you can have a static car seat, if you don't have a car (I didn't) then a travel system is ideal for lifts/emergency taxi rides etc.

Once you get out of a taxi/lift you don't want to be carrying a car seat AND pushing a pram, so in those instances I clicked it in

I only wheeled them with the car seat attached when I was actually using the car seat for something, other times I left it at home and used the pram element

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 11:05

I was wondering why OTT wanted me to provide evidence as to the incidence of twins, mobility issues among parents of small children, a depression.

She seemed to be trying to pick a fight for the sake of it. Hence silly.

Originalplurker · 10/04/2012 11:05

creamegg

I put that in my post as I was thinking the receptionist could monitor the policy of no pushchairs, but I thought the wording on such a sign would indicate that there are exceptions where a parent needs their buggy in order to access their healthcare, so you wouldn't get some bitch parents throwing dirty looks in the vain of look at them they havnt left their buggy!

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:05

according to google, bumboo is this

"We put a twist on the old eras of Pinup and glamour photography creating a modern, crisp, sharp image focusing completely on the model. Anyone can be a Pinup model, all you have to do is release a little bit of your naughty side and be prepared to have some fun."

There is a photo of a woman with no underwear on, in a fur coat. I cannot see how this would have solved my problem and the doctors?

SarryB · 10/04/2012 11:06

A bumbo is like a portable seat for a baby - but I think it's only for babies who can sit up unaided?

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:06

I would go so far as to say that if you don't have a car then a travel system is more useful than if you do have one!

hallelujahheisrisen · 10/04/2012 11:08

I vote you go ith a problenm or to that needs an examination, and lie on the coucjh ith smallest on your chest hilst middle child wrecks the gps computer. when you get to the surgery door kick it open whislt holding your to children.. or stand outside shouting can you open the door please...

make it bloody difficult for them...

Originalplurker · 10/04/2012 11:08

Bumbos are rubber type seats that support baby with sitting up from a few months, they don't do anything different really.

choceyes · 10/04/2012 11:09

A bumbo is a seat for babies aged from about 4 months upto about 9 months. Google it!

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:09

I don't see people doing that around here. Most people would walk / get the bus / tube to the doctor and having a car seat attached in would seem terribly heavy and awkward.

choceyes · 10/04/2012 11:10

sorry xposted - you have googled it!

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:10

hallelujah I was basically told I wasn't allowed to come for a smear with the children and that was that.

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:10

YANBU, but I agree that you should edit the letter a bit. The length does not help to make your point. I'd keep it to the valid points - if one is bringing a child to see the doctor, or more than one child, one might well need a pushchair. On the other hand, someone having their shopping with them as well isn't really the surgery's problem, and in fact it undermines your point a bit, since now you have put forth the idea of someone hauling in an enormous double stroller, dripping with shopping bags! The surgery is U to expect parents of small children to manage without, but it is also true that they have a problem they need to address and limited options, plus people can be shockingly inconsiderate and entitled with their pushchairs.

Someone compared it to going to the hairdressers. But unless your child is the one being treated/having a haircut, it isn't really the place's obligation to provide the facilities for children. Obviously ones that do might be seen as providing a welcome customer service, and get more custom as a result, but I do wonder about the attitude of expecting to take a pushchair everywhere one goes. Sometimes it is not gong to be possible and then one has to make other arrangements. But that's a difference between neccessity (medical treatment) and luxury (a trip to the hairdresser)...

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 10/04/2012 11:11

you really are nit picking now Hmm

If I walked/bussed/trained (which I did most of the time) I didn't bring that element so you wouldn't have seen me with it, I used it on the occassions when I had to go in a car, and as they weren't MY cars, I didn't have static car seats in them, and if the lift/taxi ride was one way I couldn't leave a static seat in it!

brdgrl · 10/04/2012 11:13

bumbos are unsafe. I hope that if you took one into the surgery, they would tell you so.
www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/14/us-did-bumbo-idUSTRE7BD23Z20111214

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 11:13

What use is a seat like that for a babe in arms?

oopsi · 10/04/2012 11:14

Strapping them in pushchairs, So much easier than parenting!

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