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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

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Janoschi · 09/04/2012 22:41

YANBU. But if space is an issue, how about the surgery supplies bungee cords and hooks to strap younger kids to the surgery wall?

cuttingpicassostoenails · 09/04/2012 22:45

Bungee cords and hooks? Nah....gaffer tape every time.

jimswifein1964 · 09/04/2012 22:46

Wehad to leave ours in the porch area, but they did supply padlocks and chains! I did get into a heated debate once when I took infectious child in there to ask to see doctor, because I'd tried for 2 hrs to get through by phone, to no avail. The receptionist said 'he should be strapped in a buggy', which i pointed out would be unattended by the front door and not visible from where I was. The 'debate' went on for some time.

wonkylegs · 09/04/2012 22:48

Our surgery banned them a while back - huge hoo hah at the time but actually it hasn't been a problem and they take a sensible approach - for example I have mobility problems but didn't use my walking sticks when I had buggy, they let me take the buggy in for support if I needed, but mostly I left it outside as it does take up a lot of space (even my tiny one) and I've seen them let a lady with sleeping twins bring it in and tuck them just out if the way.
The buggys are left in the porch bit outside and although on baby clinic days there must be close on to £10k's worth of prams there, none have ever been nicked or damaged.

QueenOfFlippingEverything · 09/04/2012 22:49

Its normal IME for them to ask that you leave pushchairs outside. I think its got worse recently as pushchairs are so big now - I know they used to be huge way back when, but in those days it was fine to leave pushchair/shopping/baby outside.

I see why it pisses people off but they can't magic a bigger waiting area up! Maybe get a bike lock?

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 09/04/2012 22:50

Do you have any other suggestions of how they could solve the problem?

Chilenachica · 09/04/2012 22:53

I would love to be at this surgery, with twins.

Oh, sorry, could you just get That out of my pocket please? No, then could you hold one of the babies, no, well you are making it difficult for your patients, aren't you.

Sadly my twins are now much to old to be carried one on either hip, and I'm abroad, otherwise I'd help you make your point.

Janoschi · 09/04/2012 22:53

I agree the gaffer tape might SOUND more satisfying but the cost of fresh gaffer tape every hour could prove too much of a drain on the NHS.

Velcro wall with velcro toddler waistcoats could be a way of getting that satisfying rip but without the waste....

catsareevil · 09/04/2012 22:53

My GP's also ban pushchairs, you have to leave them in the porch.

It did sound like it was going to be a pain when they first started it, but in the end I didnt find it to be a problem.

YouOldSlag · 09/04/2012 22:55

YANBU. I think it's impractical to have a GP surgery where very small children can't be kept in their pushchair if they are ill/asleep/tired.

It's also impossible to have a successful consultation with a doctor if you are trying to get your 2 yo off the doctor's weighing scales/couch/desk when you are discussing a personal health problem or need to be examined.

Not everyone can get or has casual child care arrangements so a lot of us have to take kids to the Dr/midwife/clinic with us.

McHappyPants2012 · 09/04/2012 22:55

I would move doctor surgery

WorraLiberty · 09/04/2012 22:56

Ours have to be left in the porch too.

cheesesarnie · 09/04/2012 22:57

isnt it standard now that pushchairs arent allowed in gp surgeries?
why dont you start a thread asking how other parents cope with dc on lose in gp surgery?

Flisspaps · 09/04/2012 22:57

I'd imagine the rule would be changed pretty sharpish if the nurses experience several smear tests with an unrestrained toddler 'assisting'...

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 09/04/2012 22:59

our local GP banned em, everyone said they wouldn't manage - everyone did! so YABU

NiniLegsInTheAir · 09/04/2012 23:03

YANBU. Our Doc's is a 10 min walk from our house so not worth taking the car, and DD doesn't walk yet so I'd have to carry her on my hip if they banned pushchairs. Which they havn't. I'd complain, if they insist and its going to be a problem for you you'll probably need to change doctors.

nailak · 09/04/2012 23:03

did they really manage? or did it effect the quality of their consultations, and result in less thorough exams and treatments? and more crying, distressed kids?

IAmBooyhoo · 09/04/2012 23:04

goodness. what do they expect parents of babies that can't sit up unaided to do? leave a baby lying on the floor? have the surgery provided baby bouncers or safe seats for the babies to sit in? what about play pens? they need to provide something IMO.

PeelingmyselfofftheCeiling · 09/04/2012 23:04

Cremeegg, can you carry twins simultaneously in car seats post CSection, because that's what 'managing' would've involved for me.

Cremeeggsandkitkatsoldiers · 09/04/2012 23:23

well If I had twins I'ld personally sling one and carry the other rather than carry 2 car seats so...

I didn't have twins, I had one baby and was horrified at the prospect but it was never the REAL problem I (and everyone else) imagined it to be

y'know some people don't even use buggies at all! and they manage all kinds of things!

splashymcsplash · 09/04/2012 23:38

Mine has banned them for as long as I have been registered. With one child I just have no choice but to watch her wreak havoc try to control her while she runs around like lunatic.

Ineedacleaneriamalazyslattern · 09/04/2012 23:38

My old surgery banned them they have a massive waiting room but it wasn't them that made the ban it was a fire inspection.
They did apply some common sense though and sleeping babies, twins etc were allowed in. It was strictly applied on baby clinic day though which was what the fire inspection was most concerned about.

NoFoodwithaFace · 09/04/2012 23:40

Our local gp's let them them in, but the resident nurse comes out and makes you leave it outside her room. I have no idea why at all.... especially as its along a huge corridor so any dirt would have been well gone, and the room is massive!

BramblyHedge · 09/04/2012 23:47

Ours must be unusual. We can take ours in and even upstairs in the lift.

working9while5 · 09/04/2012 23:47

YANBU. All my midwife appointments are on a Wednesday, and I don't have any childcare. I have lots of other appointments on a Wednesday at the moment (consultant etc) that are very important and much longer than the 10 minute routine community midwife one - it's simply not practical for dh to get out of work for both and I don't have any back up. Ds (2) sits in his pushchair for the 10 minutes and I can turn him the other way if needs be but if he were wandering around there is no way the midwife could examine me. I certainly can't imagine her being able to do a sweep when the time comes if he was free range!