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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

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exoticfruits · 10/04/2012 07:20

They have always been banned from my doctor's surgery. I thought it was the norm. There is a place to leave them outside-there is no room. I never found it a problem.

lagoonhaze · 10/04/2012 07:34

Yanbu but i think you need to change your letter to be more reasonable and to the point. It's rather long. Plus it's not a forthcoming ban it's a recent ban.

Ask them how this policy makes access to the surgery inclusive to all. What support will they give patients who need examination and have children or young babies.

Explain that as a mum of three you are unlikely to be able to attend the surgery now due to the extra difficulty it will present so will be most likely need to request a home visit ( they will hate that!)

missmapp · 10/04/2012 07:37

We have to leave them in the porch, hasnt been a problem so far. i seem to remember that we could take babies in car seats tho'.

lagoonhaze · 10/04/2012 07:41

Plus right now I'm struggling to hold and carry my wriggling 5 month old as I'm in constant pain while I await surgery. Sad as it is the pushchair is the only way I can get out with her right now as the mobi and mae tai slings I have are painful to use.

Rhubarbgarden · 10/04/2012 07:58

Pushchairs have never been allowed in my doctors' surgery. Some use slings, some attach their car seats to their buggy chassis and leave the chassis in the buggy park, some spend the whole time fielding roaming toddlers. I made the mistake of taking dd to a smear test once - never again. She screamed blue murder the whole time, they had to get a second nurse in to hold her and the original nurse told me off for not bringing her in in her pushchair, even though I'd told the reception staff it was for a smear and they'd been adamant I couldn't take my buggy. I had no childcare options at the time, I have since had to find childcare for such appointments - not easy at all, I have family and feel awkward asking friends but there's no choice. No point whinging to the doctors' surgery about it though; this is how they've operated for years, there is simply no space for pushchairs.

Rhubarbgarden · 10/04/2012 07:59

I have no* family

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 08:08

Ours has always had a ban on them and it is a total nightmare.

I imagine that many do what I did and simply not attend the surgery until they are past the stage where it is too hard (baby that needs to be held + toddler).

I asked them what their advice was for people who needed eg a smear but they shrugged.

Mind you ours also has a premium rate call line and a system whereby it is more or less impossible to actually get an appointment for anything so that's life I guess.

HappyCamel · 10/04/2012 08:12

They need to provide ailings you can lock it to and a shelter. My buggy is far more expensive than my bike and. Wouldn't leave that unlocked.

HappyCamel · 10/04/2012 08:12

*railings

bigjoeent · 10/04/2012 09:02

I love all the people with one child saying you should just be able to manage for a drs appt, which is more important. I have 21 month old twins and take them in in their buggy, even though buggies are banned. The surgery just use common sense and I signed a H&S waiver form (which had no effect in law anyway).
Just try to take 21 month old twins in without a buggy, getting in the surgery would be a challenge, they go in different directions (even with reins and they are too heavy for slings) and would both be trying to pull everything out once I made it into the doctors room. No chance of having a meaningful discussion.

Interestingly the doctors I see have no problems with them in the buggy. And if I have to go in with their 5 yo brother as well.....

halcyondays · 10/04/2012 09:11

Our surgery has always allowed you to bring buggies in and rightly so.

talkingnonsense · 10/04/2012 09:16

I think most surgeries would rather let the kids be in pushchairs, but as others have said the ban is probably a result of a fire inspection, or a condition of their insurance. So they have no choice. Why not ask them why? And suggest how they could help- eg high chair, play pen.

OTTMummA · 10/04/2012 09:18

YANBU, what are they proposing to do with parents who have mobility problems?
I am on crutches, and have had to use a wheelchair in the past, when i am not pregnant i am on a daily cocktail of painkillers, which barely help.
I have no on demand childcare, DH is the breadwinner, and can not just take time off for a routine appt, even if i need an examination.
When ds was little, i used the pushchair for support and couldn't get out without it.
I deliberatley had children with big age gaps because i knew i wouldn't be able to cope physically with the lifting and carrying, and wouldn't be able to push a double pushchair with 2 children in it.
I don't take my DS1 out alone now as if i needed to get to him quickly i wouldn't be able to.
If they can't make exceptions ( which seems unfair for everyone else ) then i would be finding a different surgery.

Meglet · 10/04/2012 09:18

Yanbu.

I would often have shopping and my purse in mine. Even if there was somewhere secure to leave the pushchair I wouldn't be happy about all my belongings being a free for all.

Much easier to see the GP with children strapped in and not running riot.

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 09:19

Don't know about one child, but I have five and never had a problem with a buggy-free surgery.

But then, I have never been afraid to tell my children to sit down and be quiet.

It is possible, you know. It's called parenting.

lisad123 · 10/04/2012 09:21

Easy just stand with buggy until called and then scoop them all up.

OTTMummA · 10/04/2012 09:23

Am so glad for you and your superior parenting, with ever obeying children ClaireAll!

ClaireAll · 10/04/2012 09:25

Nothing particularly amazing about it! But thanks. :)

DesperatelySeekingBunnies · 10/04/2012 09:27

Mine bans them from the waiting room which tbh I understand as there isn't much room for them, we're meant to leave them in an area by reception. There are no locks but it's inside and not the kind of area I'd expect to get our buggy nicked.

However, they don't seem to heavily enforce this rule. I leave the buggy in the designated area unless DS is asleep (hardly ever) or is highly infectious. Otherwise he sits on my lap or crawls around saying hi to everyone.

Meglet · 10/04/2012 09:27

I can tell my children to sit down and behave until I'm blue in the face. Doesn't mean they're going to do it.

It's called being a child.

DowagersHump · 10/04/2012 09:31

I can't believe anyone would take children to a smear Shock

lagoonhaze · 10/04/2012 09:34

Some people have no choice Shock

CalicoCathy · 10/04/2012 09:34

I've never been to a doctor's surgery that allows pushchairs inside.

When I used to go when DD was tiny, the GP would put some paper towel on the floor and then a folded blanket on top for her to lie on.

I took both DD1 and 2 with me for my post-natal check ups, I just held DD2 and told DD1 to sit quietly. Which she did - probably because she is totally used to having to sit still in the doctor's as she's never known any different.

Of course it would be nice if all doctor's surgeries had acres of space for pushchairs, but they don't.

zzzzz · 10/04/2012 09:35

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bigjoeent · 10/04/2012 09:38

Claireall, oh to be you. My twins are learning but they don't yet understand it all, thats called being a child. Parenting is helping them to learn.

The 5 year old will sit still, read a book and understands that he is in a public space and behave.