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To believe that Brits stand out a mile when abroad?

184 replies

ChickenSkin · 09/04/2012 20:14

And I don't know why!

When we were in Florida we were walking through a mall and people definitely look twice at us. Little kids especially stared at our kids like they KNEW they were different.

So what is it about Brits that make us stand out so much?

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MsNorbury · 11/04/2012 08:03

Two things make my laugh here:

  1. The desperate ness of everyone to be identified as foreign
  2. The sweeping geberalisariins here. "British (wow all 56 million ?!) people stand badly because of bullying at school"

Listen to yourselves. !! It's bordering on racism.

noddyholder · 11/04/2012 08:42

Oh no I don't have any aspirations to look forrin but also don't want to identify in any way with the brit abroad look

Mayisout · 11/04/2012 08:45

The poor posture of many brits is blatant imo. So why not surmise as to why this is?

My brother was in international marketing, an American company but he was covering Europe and the Middle East. In his view the national characteristics rang pretty true.

Discussing it is fun. I travel alot and often try to guess the nationality - but must say it has got harder in recent years as nearly everyone is in casual clothes, often t shirt and jeans.

Discowomb · 11/04/2012 08:53

I'm petite, pale, freckly and ginger - the Cubans didn't know what to make of me! One big, burly black security guard walked across the hotel grounds with me, to ask all about where I was from, why I was so pale, and compare his arms to mine. He was friendly with it, but i felt like a freak Wink

And, being Scottish, I have often been asked if I am Dutch by the French. Must be something about the accent Hmm

porcamiseria · 11/04/2012 09:00

Yes, but I can tell most natonalities straight away, esp

Italian
German (maybe mix w Dutch)
American
Spanish
E European, esp Polish

then of course with the brits there are sub categories too

Thats normal right??????

I get mistaken for German alot, but I dont mind as they are a bit more classy and affluant looking than the brits!!!!!

MsNorbury · 11/04/2012 09:03

Some britishnpeople are black. Quite a few actually.

PigeonPair · 11/04/2012 09:03

I can always hear spot American tourists a mile off. It's the clothes, and general demeanour.

noddyholder · 11/04/2012 09:07

This is not about race its about style in general whilst on holiday. My ex and his brothers were black 2 of them v stylish the other 2 a nightmare of socks and sandals

noddyholder · 11/04/2012 09:11

I used to do some hosting for foreign students and some of those were super naff used to really make us laugh. Either really glitzy and expensive or a bit german rambler.

limitedperiodonly · 11/04/2012 09:43

hilly In Italy la bella figura is a way of life. If you don't cut it you get noticeably worse treatment. Most people don't mind and actually expect you to get poor treatment if you don't conform. That goes for the Italians or immigrants who aren't up to scratch in some way too. It can get nasty for them but doesn't go that far for tourists in huge trainers and comfy trousers.

British people, north Americans, Australians and whoever else comes from a country that doesn't have this highly-defined concept - it is a bit more than snobbishness - don't understand why they're snubbed or ripe for overcharging in some cases. Unless they fit the bill, in which case they might find themselves being lavishly praised which is baffling too.

It's not that difficult to dress in an 'acceptable' way if you live there. Around 20 years ago, before the rise of the designer brand, it used to be even easier. You also have to remember that on the whole the Italian cost of living has always been cheaper than in Britain but that is changing and people are feeling very poor there now which probably makes them cling harder to appearances.

Italians are in thrall to designer stuff, far more than we are. The police make half-hearted attempts to crack down on the vendors of counterfeit goods who come out in every town and city after dusk. But in a country where police officers in Dolce & Gabbana sunglasses are a common sight, you can tell that like many things about Italian life, it's just for show.

It's not practical to dump your wardrobe and replace it for a holiday. And even if you think your stuff is good and you fit in, they probably won?t agree, so it?s not worth worrying.

If you get really bad treatment then spend your money in another country next time. But generally it will go no further than being shunted to the back of the queue in shops and restaurants and being unable to get a bed on the beach. Very annoying but not life-threatening. Vote with your feet if you don't want to play.

I've no idea what it's like in Russia but it is funny when fabulously wealthy Russians with their bad teeth and rough manners pitch up in Italy and other genteel parts of Europe.

They get fantastic service because they're so rich. But the palpable and helpless distaste from the locals, which they don't notice or don't give a shit about, is a wonder to behold.

Anyway, back to sweeping generalisations now. They?re much more fun. Grin

AKMD · 11/04/2012 09:49

Gosh limited, which Italians are you talking about?! I lived in Florence for ages and was expecting Milanese chic but oh no. The women there were positively dripping in leopard-print, chained shoes and dodgy leather jackets. No trainers though.

smokeandglitter · 11/04/2012 09:54

Well, I live in London, and find we can always tell who are Americans and the French Tourists.

But yeah can spot other Brits abroad, I think it's also a culture thing, we use the same culture or just look awkward haha.

limitedperiodonly · 11/04/2012 10:07

AKMD Their taste isn't mine. It's either mainly dull and too old for both sexes or for women, hooker chic with all that gold, leopard-print, heavy foundation, obvious lip-liner etc.

That goes for expensive stuff too - Versace and Dolce are very typically Italian, and now Russian Grin.

They do admire understated luxury brands - Loro Piana, Malo, Bottega Veneta, which is steadily getting more and more bling - but those things make you look rich but hopelessly late middle-aged.

People think Italian style is all about understated linen trousers. It's not, it can be like an explosion in a whore-house dressing room. It's part of the fun of being there.

limitedperiodonly · 11/04/2012 10:12

AKMD I don't go to Milan but I gather that like other northern Italian cities I visit such as Bologna, Modena and Turin, it is a little more restrained.

An hour or so on the train south to Florence though...

porcamiseria · 11/04/2012 10:18

I love the Italian style personally, and prefer it to French which is a bit too straightlaced.

what I LOVE is Italian beach style, the sarongs, the sandels, the kaftans, altough the tan and natural slenderness does help. they do seem to have a way of putting an outfit together

I do get a bit depressed when I get the check in and see the rows of pasty brits, sorry but we are NOT the most sylish. I love my country but lets not kid ourselves..........................

the worts for me is

crap t shirt tops
mid calf cotton trousers
yukky sandels

I blame NEXT and M&S

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 10:21

I agree, porcamiseria, that Italian style, and particularly summer/beach style, is amazing. The French are dull in comparison (though they do avoid vulgar in the process), unless you are around Saint-Tropez though it does get a bit blingy...

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 10:22

And I agree, it is next to impossible to buy nice summer/beach wear in the UK unless you spend squillions.

Mrsjay · 11/04/2012 10:26

I was mistaken for frenc in france a few years ago as did dd1 a french woman starting talking to us and we couldnt get the phrase book out quick enough , dd1 who was doing french at school sort of translated and told her we were not french , on the same holiday though we were in a village and looking for tourist information , I tripped over a well a local alcoholic and his friends who were sitting with him swore at us in french gabbled a bit all i could make out was PAH touriste [griin]

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 10:27

Having said that, an Italian friend of mine bought a swimsuit in Next (this is many years ago) and looked beyond fabulous and glamorous in it. But she had the sort of dark skin and hair that set off a white floral swimsuit to perfection.

FreudianSlipper · 11/04/2012 10:37

i always get mistaken for spanish, turkish or italian

i spot brits (and not doubt they spot me) it is just a way we have. sometimes it is the clothes next and boden always look like next and boden clothes (not that i wear either but wear the very nearly international h&m) its out manner too, we are not all loutish thankfully but we jsut never seemed to be as relaxed with ourselves as some europeans or australians

i can spot germans too i think they have a similar manner to us they just speak louder

porcamiseria · 11/04/2012 10:43

i was tempted to get a Primark bikini for an Italian mate of mine, lets face it when you are a slender tanned brunnette with a nice small bust, a fake missoni bikini will look good, but something held me back!!!!

Noone rocks a white cotton kaftan like the Italians, IMO

yet when I wear mine, I look...wrong

FreudianSlipper · 11/04/2012 10:48

i love the italian style (not all)

its their confidence and the look of not trying to hard that makes them look so good they never over do it (mostly)

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 10:49

That white cotton kaftan/leather sandals/big sunhat look just doesn't work properly without a deep tan Sad

porcamiseria · 11/04/2012 10:51

agree, and my skin although it tans does not get than Italian look

that said, they ALL use factor 5 oil, all of them. shocking!!!!!!

I did start to use some 5pm onwards and god, it works! bad porca

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 10:53

I am in the twilight years with Botox and fillers emerging on the none too distant horizon and Factor 5 oil is but a distant memory...