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To think that a Jehovah's Witness has no right to demand that I respect his beliefs when he's just rung my doorbell to bore me with his

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CrockoDuck · 05/04/2012 21:09

Happy to respect the rights of people to have their beliefs, but I reserve the right to point out factual inaccuracies and scientific ignorance when it's brought to my home.

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runningforthebusinheels · 05/04/2012 23:39

YANBU op - we get JW calling every couple of months and I find it pretty intrusive tbh. If you knock on someone's door unexpectedly, it's fine to offer information or whatever, but it's a bit rich for someone to demand that you respect their beliefs when they're on your doorstep!

I'm actually very polite when they call, but I never let them get started, just politely say 'No thank you' and shut the door.

LadyBeagleEyes · 05/04/2012 23:42

I don't think your'e being unreasonable at all OP.
They are entitled to their faith and their beliefs but knocking on peoples doors to try and convert them is invasive.
I don't get any anymore I live in the middle of nowhere, but I'm an athiest, I'm not even prepared to discuss it, they'll have an answer to everything because they have been brainwashed very well educated in what to say.
And that also includes the Mormons.
I'm so with sgb on this .

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 05/04/2012 23:45

It's the lack of logic which confuses me. So there are limited places in heaven yet you are knocking on doors in the hope of getting people to take them thus decreasing your own chances.

I was raised Catholic so the very thought of actual altruism in organised religion makes my head hurt Grin

It is true that if you ring Kingdom Hall they will take you off their list. You don't have to demand the home addresses of the people who leant on the doorbell when you had a finally-sleeping newborn still attached to the breast. So that you could go round at your convenience to explain your beliefs. Oh, no Blush

Auntiestablishment · 05/04/2012 23:45

My neighbours are Jehovah's Witnesses. They don't knock on my door, or any of the other immediate neighbours so as not to cause embarrassment/difficulty in neighbourly relations.
But they knew when I'd missed the door-to-door squad and handed me a leaflet when I met them in the street, door-to-door knocking away from our homes.

I think this is rather a good way to handle it.

SophieNeveau · 06/04/2012 00:06

JW don't all believe they will go to heaven.

CatPussWithACrownOfThorns · 06/04/2012 00:10

TheNightIsDark, that isn't what JWs believe.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 06/04/2012 00:12

I remember someone coming to the door when I was at my BF's house aged about seventeen. We had skipped college to take some acid with his best mate. So when she arrived, we were very open to company.

The lady was invited in and while I was making tea I heard snatches of the conversation. She was earnestly explaining about the miraculous stones which enabled someone or other to "see". BF and friend then debating whether they were magic glasses or magic binoculars.

She left a book. With an illustration of the stones but I can't remember which cult the poor nice lady was from.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 06/04/2012 00:20

Sophie and Cat I stand corrected. Always happy to learn.

My DD has a life-threatening blood-clotting disorder which has nearly killed her several times in her short life because blood-products were not available or able to be administered as quickly as needed. Children bleed out scarily easily.

As you can imagine, the JW visits trigger PTS in me. I have moved four times in recent years close to the same Kingdom Hall and the last two times I have remembered to let them know for their benefit as much as mine because I do respect their beliefs and don't want the people to waste their time or come into contact with a mother and child who may be somehow offensive to them.

LadyBeagleEyes · 06/04/2012 00:22

Grin at TheNight. I remember acid.
Acid and JWs would have totally freaked me out.
Or possibly converted me.
Scary thought.

SophieNeveau · 06/04/2012 00:24

The blood issue is a difficult one.

I think in planned operations their cell saver machines i think they are called, can be sensible.

Blood is a great gift, it is screened, though not for everything, so if you can use your own all the better.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 06/04/2012 00:25

What if your own doesn't clot effectively? Are you doomed?

LadyBeagleEyes · 06/04/2012 00:29

Doomed. We're all doomed TheNight.
Was that not a line in Dad's Army?

CatPussWithACrownOfThorns · 06/04/2012 00:36

The fact that your child had blood shouldn't offend a witness. And quite frankly, the fact that they don't use it, is their choice. And it's a personal one. I'm sure that there are many who would think long and hard if faced with the decision.
The blood issue, is a tiny Part of what JWs believe. But it's the one thing everyone remembers.

Iwantcandy · 06/04/2012 00:44

My parents used to rent out rooms to American students. One had only been with them a couple of days when she answered the door to 2 jehovahs witnesses. They asked her what religion she practiced and she very sweetly said "oh we practice buggery in this house so we re not interested thanks". I was more than slightly shocked. They haven't been back though...

OrigInalPlurker · 06/04/2012 00:58

We seem to get loads of these allers, I always immediately say, thank you but we have our faith, and close the door.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 06/04/2012 01:56

It may be a tiny part of the faith, but some people have to use use blood products to keep their otherwise-healthy beloved child alive, Cat.

I'm glad that my daughter doesn't offend visiting JWs.

Emmielu · 06/04/2012 06:52

Mine are sneaky round here. One will just arrive on my door step, nothing in hands etc. I answer the door he starts advertising, I say no thanks, go to shut the door, his foot is there. I open the door again, firmly say no, he shoves the paper at me, I follow him to my recycle bin, call out "excuse me sir!" he looks at me, I pop it in the green bin & say "well done for saving the environment." I'm such a cow. Grin

pumpkinsweetie · 06/04/2012 07:00

I dont believe JW or any other religion should be allowed to do these door-to-door speeches as i think it is brainwashing.
If you are a christian u r a christian, if u are a catholic you are a catholic, if you are a muslim you are a muslim and so on you cannot be told by someone at your door what to believe in!!
I myself am an atheist as i do not believe in any of these religions-that is my choice so having someone at your door preeching is not onAngry
JWs are offended by taking blood transfusions & i will never understand why as without them a lot of people wouldnt be alive-but thats their beliefs which is fine but they shouldnt impose it on others.
What astonished me the most is when in the news last year JW husbands pregnant wife , full term with twins died as a result of the H not agreeing to a BT - i will never understand how religion can make such a big decision for u and thats why i dont want them at my door, its not a religion i agree with or understand at all

Sirzy · 06/04/2012 07:02

I have no issue with anyone's faith, I do have an issue with people trying to force their faith on my on my own doorstep.

I am a Christian but would never dream of going door to door preaching to people, in the same way I don't like it when people stand in town centres preaching to passing shoppers.

If someone wants to practice a religion they will. By forcing it on people its more likely to scare them off.

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exoticfruits · 06/04/2012 07:17

Anyone is allowed to knock at your door and try and speak to you. You are not obliged to listen.
You can easily spot Jehovah Witnesses-I merely cut to the chase, interrupt with 'are you Jehovah Witnesses'. They admit to it. I say 'I'm not interested, thank you' and shut the door.
It isn't a problem. Don't engage in conversation.
It works a treat with anyone else, smile, same words and close the door.

Happenstance · 06/04/2012 07:18

The just post leaflets and the odd out of date copy of he watchtower here, they never knock, Sad i used to like talking to them sometimes, i'm not religious but i like hereing other points of view, but this is quite a rough area and i would imagine i'm in the minority which is why they don't bother.

DinahMoHum · 06/04/2012 07:27

If youre born into them and want to leave, your whole family will abandon you.
The ones who left, did you join voluntarily? Are your family members too?

Hopandaskip · 06/04/2012 07:28

man, if someone stuff their foot in the door, I'd give them the mummy-stare-of-death and growl 'move it or loose it' in the most menacing voice I have while summoning the dogs.

this cartoon was on George takei's page
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