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AIBU to think that the torries are going to far

92 replies

Facebookhurtsmybrain · 05/04/2012 14:26

An article in the Telegraph today has said that the torries are going to stop under 25yr olds from claiming housing benefit and proposed that they should be living with their parents, like other 25yr olds in their first job.

Do the torries think that all unemployed young people leave home to move into a bedsit or a room in a shared house because they want independence and think that life is going to be one big party in there own pad. Have they thought about teenagers that have been in care and dumped out of the system at 18, have they considered people that left home at 16 to get away from abusive parents, have they considered people that have no parents and find themselves unemployed and unable to pay rent, have they considered people that are under care in the community, have they considered any of the people this could affect.

Highest youth unemployment in years and now they want to make people homeless!

AIBU in thinking that the tories have lost the plot?

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GeekCool · 05/04/2012 14:29

The Tories went too far a long time ago. This is unsuprising, as horrific as it is.

RuleBritannia · 05/04/2012 14:35

Judging from other ideas that have come to fruition, I expect that things will be amended to alleviate the suffering such as the OP described. Many of us lived with our parents until we were well into our twenties - but not all of us - so those who cannot live with parents will be catered for. This will not happen without consultation and a U turn here and there.

degroote78 · 05/04/2012 14:55

They lost the plot a while ago. Hopefully they won't be re-elected at the next General Election. They are a bunch of out of touch privilaged upper class twits who quite frankly have no idea what goes on in the real world.

Facebookhurtsmybrain · 05/04/2012 15:34

I'm really annoyed when they go on about people on benefits and always show the worse offenders to prove their point. They will do that with this. They'll show a teenager living 5 doors down from his lovely parents, who live in a 6 bedroom house with an indoor swimming pool and begging their son to move back home. The torries will make a point of saying "why should the decent honest working tax paying public be paying for this guy".

Bet they won't show the girl that moved out of home when she was 15 after attempting suicide 4 times from the age of 12 because here mother wasn't physically abusive but totally ignored her and wouldn't even talk to her. They won't show the girl who slept on peoples couches until they kicked her out, lived on the streets for two years, until (after a year of waiting on the list) she finally got a place in a hostel and then got housed by the local council. Nice story... try living it Cameron...

Hmm torries... you really have no idea what it's like out there!

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DinahMoHum · 05/04/2012 15:41

theyre a bunch of cunts and always have been. Cant believe so many people had such short memories as to vote for them

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 05/04/2012 15:45

So are they saying you are still a dependent child at the age of 25? No doubt the tories will be saying that those same parents should also be housing their 75 year old Mother with Alzheimers to save on care home fees.

LesAnimaux · 05/04/2012 15:46

I think this is what's known as kicking people when they are down.

takingbackmonday · 05/04/2012 15:47

www.portcharlottehouse.com/

Seriously. House AND apartment?!?! Bloody Torries.

TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors · 05/04/2012 15:48

I've never voted Tory before...

Because I'm not a cunt.

OldGreyWiffleTest · 05/04/2012 15:50

And people with equally short memories with vote Labour - who nearly bankrupted the country in the first place.

takingbackmonday · 05/04/2012 15:51

I voted Tory and campaigned for them for years and years, even worked for a few MPs.

I've left now.

Lottapianos · 05/04/2012 15:54

The current government do this every month or so - announce some utterly disgraceful and sociopathic policy, wait for the outcry, then row back slightly so it's only 80% as awful and expect people to be grateful. They are utterly clueless and utterly uncaring. I hate their guts, all of them Angry

Dawndonna · 05/04/2012 15:55

Hmm, Labour nearly bankrupted the country.

Think that may well have been the tory bankers

takingbackmonday · 05/04/2012 15:56

It wasn't the bankers. Come on. Bankers didn't help but over spending and a HUGE unproductive side of the economy (public sector) against over taxed productive part (private). Not criticising ANYONE who works in public - do amazing jobs etc - but not good for economy.

AmberLeaf · 05/04/2012 15:56

What DinahMoHum said and also what TheNightIsDarkAndFullOfTerrors said too.

Facebookhurtsmybrain · 05/04/2012 15:58

OldGreyWiffleTest I think you'll find that it all started with Maggie telling council house tenants to buy their homes. People on low income being allowed to get 100% mortgages and the banks cashing in on that AND GETTING VERY RICH.

Seriously do you really believe that "Labour bankrupted the country crap". As I recall unemployment was a lot lower than it is now. If the torries are so worried about saving money then they shouldn't of cut the 50p tax rate of all their rich friends. But I suppose it's ok because the granny tax will cover that.

WAKE UP OldGreyWiffleTest

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YNK · 05/04/2012 16:00

The bankers couldn't have done it without the help of Thatcher and her mate Reagan when they were deregulated!

ThePathanKhansWitch · 05/04/2012 16:01

But, but I thought all the parents in social/council houses, were supposed to give up their 3/4/5 bedrooms houses and move into a smaller property?

Mum,dad and 25 year old offspring in same room.

Fook me, it's the days of Dickens!.

looktoshinford · 05/04/2012 16:15

"Think that may well have been the tory bankers"

No it was Labour. And now, instead of mucking in to help clear up the shit they caused, they are playing class politics. A symptom of a party with no ideas.

WRT the original post - IMO no-one should be intentionally leaving home without the means to support themselves (i.e a JOB) or they end up costing us all fortune.

Sprogged · 05/04/2012 16:24

Yes Facebook, they have completely lost it, but what's to stop them? They all seem to be politic playing millionaires who know very little except each other, them and Labour. The libdems have shown they have no backbone whatsoever..... there just isn't any alternative. How they can rundown people who have to claim benefits to get by while their claiming £300 dinners on expenses, it just breaks my heart. They're looting the country and killing the little folks to pay for it :(

woollyideas · 05/04/2012 16:28

WRT the original post - IMO no-one should be intentionally leaving home without the means to support themselves (i.e a JOB) or they end up costing us all fortune.

Even in situations where they are being emotionally, physically or sexually abused? Wow.

takingbackmonday · 05/04/2012 17:40

Does anyone truly believe Thatcher is to blame.

In the end, Labour always run out of other people's money. Same the coalition are doing a rubbish job.

takingbackmonday · 05/04/2012 17:41

alternative UKIP.

Flat rate of tax, grammar schools, no climate change hysteria so lower energy bills, more affordable housing....

Just a thought

NarkedPuffin · 05/04/2012 17:45

Grin at the idea of UKIP as a viable alternative.

Voidka · 05/04/2012 17:46

Was that a serious post taking or a sarcastic one?