to think teachers and schools do a fooking amazing job, and to be stunned and disgusted that they get such unnecessary arse-ache from ridiculous parents?

[bejeezus]

Im despairing of the amount of AIBU threads recently along the lines of- teachers shouldnt be telling my dc to go to bed early/ shouldnt be promoting 100% attendance blah blah blah

I understand there are other routes to adulthood besides main-stream education. But whilst you do use mainstream education you should understand what a difficult job it is for schools and teachers to educate groups of 30 children and maintain discipline, if those children are late/absent/tired and if the parents are constantly undermining the teachers/schools authority.

Schools have a whole diversity of families and children to accomodate including children with English as a 2nd/3rd language,social problems,SENs, disabilities and a whole range of abilities to cater for within each class. The last thing they need on top of this is spending valuable time and resources accomodating whiney-arsed parents who think the rules should not apply to them because they are in some way 'special'; ie. they are educated and rich and capable of home tutoring to facilitate an extended trip and absence from school. Ifthat isthe case, then do your home schooling and free up the schoolplace for a child that is not going to disrupt the class by extended absences/lateness and duvet days.

And, no, having your childrens lead an enriched and cultured lifestyle does not constitute a valid excuse for lateness and tiredness. Get your kids to bed on time so the teachers have the best chance of getting the best education to the most kids

There are very many countries and cultures where only1 child per family is educated (at best) because the family cannot afford more. This is almost always not a daughter

Its appalling. Education is a priviledge. What chance in hell do teachers have of getting kids to appreciate that, if the parents insisted on taken it for granted.

And finally, big-up to the teachers on here. You do a grand job, in the face of lunacy!

A friend of mines dd could not attend school- and she was sent a series of home tutors for 2 years. The LA has an obligation to provide everychild with an education, if that cannot be done within the class room,then they have to provide an alternative (as told to me by our school SENCO)

yes I know that beejeezus -my child had a home tutor. The tutor was not able to meet his needs.

well- i do just suck it up dont I....whats the alternative? whine to the teachers like you lot? then....they'll have an assembly about the importance of getting an early night and what constitutes a reasonable bedtime.....then yous'll all be up in arms again because the HT is trying to dictate/tell you how to parent/ 'is not treating you like people (classic quote from yesterdays thread)

Bejeezus, I'm afraid I don't rate teaching on support and strategies, but on outcomes and measurable ones at that.

Lots of schools 'think' they are good for SEN and they are encouraged to by their LA's because otherwise thy'd ask for more funding etc. but the truth is that nationally the picture is very gloomy for children with SEN.

so, did the LA come up with a solution which did meet his needs corn?

or they may just agree....there are a few teachers on this thread who agree that 100% attendance awards are unfair - you just don't know that they're teachers

I came up with a solution which the LEA agreed to

the support and strategies that are in place for my dd are very effective and her learning hasimproved dramatically. She is very happy at school, loves her teachers, has great self awareness/esteem and good friends.

the school has never toldme they are 'good for SEN'.Ibase that judgementonmy experience and experiences of other parents of children with SNs in the school. They work really really hard at being inclusive. ANd there is a lot to consider inthe school

that sounds excellent bejeezus
as i have posted I'm not angry with the teachers...its' the system that angers me

I would rather work down a mine that in nursery or reception

That sounds excellent Bejeezus and may well explain why you think teachers are unfairly picked on.

Yes I agree with you. The amount of people who claim they are going to go and complain to the head or write to the governors about some trifling thing that a teacher said to their little angel.

This site has been a real eye opener for that. People come on with a trivial happening and posters pile in and say 'go to the head, write to the governors'! I think -'why on earth can't you pop in and have a friendly chat with the teacher?' Nine times out of ten it is a misunderstanding or a mountain out of a molehill and could be sorted in two ticks, with a smile.

I think a lot of schools focus on SEN children and the brightest. The middle kids are just left to cruise and are forgotten.

starlight & corn it IS excellent......

think I might just have had a light bulb moment

you dont all receive the same 'service' from your schools and teachers do you? We ARE actually really lucky???

Exotic really,I've seen many a thread with some quite serious concerns.I've felt very fortunate my dc aren't in some of the schools I've read about. Also do me a favour with the 2 ticks and a smile. If only!

but still what exotic says

'service' could be improved if they werent dealing with a load of inconsequential crap

Yeah the problem is I consider 50% of the school day to be inconsequential crap.

I love dd's teachers(sn school) ds had some good ones once in secondry.

sounds like your school is very good beejezus
my ds's primary school were actually very caring, but they were 'containing' him rather than helping him to learn strategies to deal with his difficulties...when he moved to another school it all fell apart quite dramatically

I think that's a dreadful attitude to have.

What may be inconsequential crap to you may actually be a big concern for the parent involved.

heswall it sounds like you just dont agree with main stream schooling

Tbh I don't it irritates the life put of me that sch

Schools assume the role of parenting these days which is why we paid for private for primary. It's assumed you know that children should have fruit veg and exercise and the teachers get on with what they do best leaving the parents the grunt work which is how it should be.