To not find the name "Irish Car Bomb Cupcake"

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... or cocktail or anything else similar acceptable.

Ugh, brings back way to many memories of near misses and growing up hearing about the latest civilian deaths on the 9 o clock news.

I grew up in a town that was bombed and two innocent boys were murdered. Watching the funeral procession of the elder boy pass by my school, as we stood with heads bowed, wondering how our school had come to be caught up in such a horrific event, has had a lasting effect.

Very distasteful, hurtful and sickening to see terrorism being made into a joke.

Thankfully, the parents of Tim Parry, took the view that Irish = Terrorist was untrue, they have continually worked toward a greater understanding between the two countries and have done so much good to build bridges. The one thing that was made clear to us, as children, at the time of Tim and Johnathon Ball's deaths, was that this was not an act of terrorism by the Irish nation but by a group of terrorists.

The Americans who glorify and funded the IRA sicken me (nb - not the American nation), always have done but more so since 9/11 - they know exactly how it feels to be the victims of terrorism and make such a big deal about 'fighting terrorism'.....short memories

YANBU - it's offensive

oh dear i sniggered

it is just such a ridiculous name

didn't really connect it with ira or other bombings

Angeleena has a really good point. In the US we spend a LOT of time as schoolchildren learning about the Revolutionary War and the founding of our country. Fighting the Brits for independence is A Good Thing. So I think that does lend itself to romanticising the IRA -- and 'freedom fighters' in general actually. It's only when terrorists attack the US that they become villains.

Brian. Colin Parry has been amazing in the way he has handled things so publicially. I have so much respect for him because of it, and I list him as a true inspiration in my life. He's done far more than so many politicians.

The thing that upsets me that the killing of two children so frequently gets forgotten and everyone always thinks of Manchester instead. Some of us, never will though.

Yes, but they do rather miss the point, that NI, on the whole, has no desire to be independent of the UK.

The contact email of the woman at the site is: [email protected]

We should all email her and let her know how offensive and horrible this is.

Karma, not everyone in the American colonies wanted independence either.

My point is that a narrative of 'freedom fighters vs the English' will always be favoured over whatever complex reality exists.

YANBU. Most of the comments in support of the blogger go along the lines of 'never mind about the name, these are delicious'. So I don't see why they don't just change the name and leave the recipe up.

It's tasteless and massively insensitive, never mind the 'this is just the name of a drink they serve in my home town in Michigan' or where sodding ever.

Hmm he really is, the whole family are. Always shocks me how few people either remember or don't know about the Warrington bombings. 2 children, murdered, the weekend before Mother's Day. I try to explain to DD the meaning of the river of life that runs through Bridge Street in their memory - but how do you explain it to a young child?

Without going into too many details, the event itself was horrific, but watching the ripples (albeit from afar) and the family trying to rebuild itself back to normality - humbling.

I have massive respect for Colin and the family. They could have let (justified) hate and revulsion take over them, but they didn't - they made sure that Tim's death was not in vain. (getting teary thinking about it all)

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the day after 9/11 i was on a bus sitting behind 2 women. The American lady said "I feel really isolated being here because no one here understands how I feel because they've never been the target of terrorism"

I can understand her desire to be at home etc but not the reasoning she used.

Agree the name is insensitive. I can understand why a shot could be called an Irish bomb but not sure why the word car has to be inserted just to put beyond reasonable doubt what it refers to

I am not a kick of 40 in my late 30s, lived my whole life in NI. Am Catholic from a very working class background as is my police officer husband I find the name very offensive and actually sickening. The measures myself and my husband go through on a day to day basis to try and lower his chances of having to deal with a car bomb both professionally and personally are exhausing, stressful and at times quite unreal.

I am aware of the drink, infact in my younger and pre very young children days have had quite a few, but we called them something different which has now escaped me.

I always take the time to try and explain it and remind people. Its the very, very, least that I can do. And I try and tell people about the family too. Because, well... yeah... I think you get it... Difficult to put into words that convey the sentiment adequately.

I was a 14 year old kid who walked past five mins before. It could so easily have been me and my family instead.

The whole thing has had a big influence on my life and the way I think about a lot of things.

So yeah, this is a crap insensitive name but I try and see it as giving who it does offend an opportunity to talk about something meaningful within that. So perhaps thats not such a bad thing afterall. "Peace Cupcakes" sadly wouldn't do the same.

I am from NI, doesn't bother me in the slightest tbh. But then, like pps dp, I am 'used to it'. Growing up in civil war has kind of made me see the funny side to life and not let little things bother me. I think you could be offended by 90% of everyday life if you wanted to.

Hmm we're the same age - I wasn't in town that day and it was in the days pre-mobiles, but we got a call from my mum's best friend who had run into the market and called us hysterical to come and get her. I can remember everything, clearly, as if it had just happened.

These things stick with you.

I can't begin to imagine how it must have felt living with the fear every day, checking under your car for bombs, seeing the aftermath of the bombs/riots etc.

One day, one event - sticks with you forever.

So, as much as the cupcake is 'just a name' it is very much in bad taste.

xposted with DPrince - so, that's how you get through then, suppose it's either that or become an insane shell of a human being.

Calling a drink/cupcake an "IRA Car Bomb" would be offensive, making light of horrific events that very few people support.

Calling it an "Irish Car Bomb" is offensive for the above reason, but also adds a nice dash of racism/xenophobia/whatever you want to call it. The vast majority of people who consider themselves Irish (from NI or ROI) want nothing to do with the IRA and don't support their actions in the slightest. Just as the majority of unionists don't support the loyallist terrorists.

I think that's what some of the above posters are trying to get at.

Seems to me no one wants poor NI - not the same as the ROI (I grew up in Dublin and now live in Belfast and there are occasionally huge cultural differences between my upbringing and my northern friends'), not wanted by the UK (case in point - Team GB at the Olympics - what about northern irish athletes who want to compete for the UK?!).

Karma- sein fein is the second biggest political party in NI now- I imagine that the vast majority of their electorate do NOT want to be part of the uk, otherwise why would they vote for them when they are extremely nationalist.

People from NI can be part of Team GB though, Wendy Houvenhagle is (cycling), Mary Peters, Wayne McCullough all are / were.

I think "Irish Americans" (self identified, no one else on the planet would consider someone the same identity as their 33rd grandfather twice removed) tend to be a bit dim in relation to irish politics. And wholly irrelevant.

I think it's a stupid name- not so much offensive as just cringe makingly stupid.

Uk not wanting NI? Are you crazy? That's like not wanting Wales! It's not even an option, we're all in it together!

Although NI costs the most per head in comparison to Wales and scotland and I not really sure why having NI is beneficial for England? I myself come from a unionist background but to me it seems a bit odd that england want to continue to support NI.

scarletsmummy, I think the largest political party in NI is the DUP, which is pro British and although Sinn Fein supporters don't want to be part of the UK, the protestant majority of the population in NI do.

It's one of those things that I don't find offensive and couldn't ever see myself getting worked up about, but I can understand why others might even if I don't agree with them.