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To not find the name "Irish Car Bomb Cupcake"

133 replies

Hopandaskip · 22/03/2012 00:35

... or cocktail or anything else similar acceptable.

Ugh, brings back way to many memories of near misses and growing up hearing about the latest civilian deaths on the 9 o clock news.

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AgentProvocateur · 22/03/2012 08:42

Bukimi Shock

valiumredhead · 22/03/2012 08:44

Was just about to post the same as stewie!

therumoursaretrue · 22/03/2012 08:51

YANBU! The level of ignorance surrounding this subject as a whole really grates with me Angry

I have a similar background as Needles and find it completely tasteless and quite disrespectful really that a cocktail or anything else would be named that. Yes sometimes satire can be used to great affect and humour can be healing but I think this misses the mark entirely and comes across ignorant to me.

On another level I hate the association that if you are Irish you MUST be a terrorist...more common than you might think as I had this assumption thrown at me a few times whilst at uni in England.

therumoursaretrue · 22/03/2012 08:54

Agree about cupcakes with names like 9/11 etc. Can you imagine the reaction that would get!? And rightly so. This is no different.

doubleshotespresso · 22/03/2012 09:01

I despair......

smoggii · 22/03/2012 09:05

Terrible name but the cupcakes do look tasty

BusinessTrills · 22/03/2012 09:08

If the cocktail looked tasty I would drink it even if it had a stupid name.

"An Irish Car Bomb is a beer cocktail that is drunk as a bomb shot, similar to a boilermaker. It is made with Irish stout, Irish cream, and Irish whiskey." says Wikipedia, so the cocktail is both Irish and bomb.

What does orange juice and vodka have to do with screwdrivers, now that's a mystery!

therumoursaretrue · 22/03/2012 09:12

True Trills, The thing that bothers me most about that is even calling it a screwdriver when "vodka and orange please" would do the job!

QuintessentialShadows · 22/03/2012 09:15

Well, it has got Guinness and Baileys, so dont see why not Irish...

They look totally yummy though, so thanks for sharing! Grin

BusinessTrills · 22/03/2012 09:16

OK then, how about a B52 (the drink not the bomber plane)? If I'm going to have a shooter than that's what I would order, and it's easier than saying Baileys, Kahlua, and Grand Marnier please.

Bomb-related name, no link that I can see between the ingredients and the name.

Cocktails names are often either related to sex or violence. If you haven't come across a particular one before it might shock you.

QuintessentialShadows · 22/03/2012 09:17

As for coctail names?

Screaming orga sm?
Se x on the beach?

Anyone?

Seriously. I would love the first of the two, but cannot bring myself, a 40 year old cats bums face judgey pants sort of woman, to ask for one. Maybe if the barmaid was a woman.

OrTakeTheRoofOff · 22/03/2012 09:23

I have personal experience of a real Irish Car Bomb, and still suffer the effects.

Didn't know about the cocktail name, but it doesn't surprise me. I do find it mildly offensive, but not upsetting. Only in terms of the fact that Americans romanticise the IRA and don't fully understand, which is something that we already knew. Perhaps they might get it if we began staggering around merrily toasting each other with Oklahoma Bombers Hmm.

Cupcake person is just using the existing name.

Cherriesarelovely · 22/03/2012 09:29

How absolutely horrible! YANBU. It's hard to imagine how anyone could actually write that recipe and not see how offensive that is.

therumoursaretrue · 22/03/2012 09:35

Cherries I love your name!

HardCheese · 22/03/2012 09:46

Violently offensive - agree with those who suggest that even the dimmest-witted US baking blogger would baulk at making a cupcake called 'Al-Qaeda Twin Towers Surprise' (or a 'Waco Massacre' red velvet cake)and that a certain strand of US culture romanticises Irish terrorism to a dangerous extent. Why those of us who lived through the bombing campaigns, being harassed at UK airports, and flinching at any parcel or piece of luggage left unattended for a second should be expected to find this cutesy is a mystery to me.

Also agree with therumoursaretrue that there remains ain a minority of people the UK a pervasive association between Irishness and terrorism. Recently on the Baby Names forum, when someone posted about considering giving her baby 'Murphy' as a first name, one poster charmingly responded 'Too IRA for me.'

Saltire · 22/03/2012 09:49

An American friend of mine told me a while ago that many Americans had no concept of (her term) "proper terrorism" until 9/11.

OrTakeTheRoofOff · 22/03/2012 09:53

See, I just don't understand what aspect of death and mutilation they had no concept of. Can it really be just because it hadn't happened to them, so that made it not real?

Saltire · 22/03/2012 09:57

I think thats what she meant, although they'd had, Oklahoma for example, they hadn't had it on the scale that we did. 9/11 caught them by surprsie. my friend even said "Why would someone want to commit a an act of terror that big, what did we do wong"

OrTakeTheRoofOff · 22/03/2012 10:01

You see, I find that idea much more upsetting than the cupcake/cocktail itself. The cocktail name is just a detail.

HardCheese · 22/03/2012 10:05

Yes the cupcake name is only a detail, but a telling detail about an alarmingly widespread mindset. Though I understood it more easily once I'd lived in the US for a while and became familiar with the news coverage - half the time 'foreign news' seemed to mean something that happened in another state, and the rest of the world seemed to become much further away psychologically.

Heleninahandcart · 22/03/2012 10:15

Exactly what HardCheese said. I would like to add ignorant to violently offensive.

Diamondback · 22/03/2012 10:29

I know some people have posted to say that they're from NI and didn't find it offensive, but I actually think this one is more uncomfortable for second genners like me (Irish parents, born and raised in England) who grew up in England surrounded by the assumption that Irish = car bomber. Now that this kind of racism is beginning to fade from memory, I really don't want it making a comeback!

jenfraggle · 22/03/2012 10:32

I'm 30 and grew up while all the IRA bombing was going on but wasn't directly affected by it as I live in Cornwall. Hearing about the bombing on the news was just normal for me and we just accepted that there were these people who just wanted to hurt others which meant being aware while in cities. I did go to Manchester just after the 96 bombing as we have family there and had already planned the trip. We went down to the Arndale while we were there and it did help me to understand it all a bit more.

I was shocked by America's response to 9/11, the impression I got is that they didn't really think terrorism existed until they were affected by it. I'm sure that there are plenty of every day American's who didn't think that but the media coverage I saw certainly suggested it.

bleedingheart · 22/03/2012 10:33

YANBU!

So crass and tasteless.

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