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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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CheerfulYank · 17/07/2013 18:59

Creighton there are "southern white ladies" in FL out protesting the verdict right now.

creighton · 17/07/2013 19:18

ashoe, don't threaten me with having my posts deleted. it is not your place.

cheerfulyank, the neverending racism that black people face in America is due to white people not acting, not insisting that racist law and practise is ceased. that's why it still exists, the occasional(?) protest does nothing to change the overall situation.

CheerfulYank · 17/07/2013 19:36

Are you American? Have you been to/lived here?

CheerfulYank · 17/07/2013 19:37

All we can do is protest. All we can do is vote for the leaders we think will best hold up our values. All we can do is not be racist ourselves and teach our children not to be.

TabithaStephens · 17/07/2013 19:49

There is no possible way that Zimmerman could have been found guilty with the evidence available.

limitedperiodonly · 17/07/2013 20:17

I'd agree tabitha, because of the charge Zimmerman faced.

But I'd like to take it on. The issue for me is the appropriateness of allowing someone with a criminal record for violence to belong to the neighbourhood watch, especially he would be armed with a gun.

So shall we debate that? Do you think it was wise for the neighbourhood watch to accept Zimmerman in their ranks? And why do you think they did that?

ThePowerof3 · 17/07/2013 20:26

I think whilst of course it's wrong to hit someone who is following you but I am not a teenager nor am I black, I wonder how many times this young man had been stopped in his life before this event, maybe it was the last straw to him? I just think if there was no gun both men would be alive to day, I've seen Zimmermans injuries and I've seen a lot worse through the magistrates courts in England I just don't see how Zimmerman was in fear for his life unless he assumed that everyone walks around armed

Ashoething · 17/07/2013 20:30

Creighton-Have you not noticed the report button above each post? So yes it is my place to report you for deletion if I feel your comments warrants it. As it happens I didn't report it as I don't feel the need to rise to your inane comments.

Wellwobbly · 17/07/2013 21:14

From Tim Stanley, The Telegraph:

The rule in the Zimmerman case seems to be ?if you don?t get the verdict you want, try, try and try again.? Ever since George Zimmerman was found not guilty of Trayvon Martin?s murder, the US Department of Justice has been pursuing other ways of getting him behind bars. It wants to nail him for breaking federal race-relation laws ? for which it would have to prove that Zimmerman was motivated by racism and that it was his civil rights that he was gunning for when he shot him dead. The DOJ?s argument has already hit some logic hurdles. After examining the case for a year, the evidence hasn?t changed and proof of Zimmerman?s racial bias remains absent. The Sanford police, the FBI and the court failed to find evidence that he?s a racist and, if anything, investigation into Zimmerman?s private life suggests the opposite ? this is a guy who took a black girl to the prom and mentored black school kids. There isn?t much of a case to pursue here.
And yet the DOJ can?t help but try. On Monday, the DOJ asked civil rights groups and members of the public for ?tips? on Zimmerman and, according to Orlando Sentinel, ?said they would very aggressively investigate this case?. They even went so far as to set up an email address so that people could write in with their observations: [email protected]. When the email account goes live, I suggest everyone send in this hot tip ? ?George Zimmerman has been found not guilty.?
The DOJ?s witch hunt is indicative of the febrile racial politics of many of the liberal commentators on the Zimmerman trial. They were initially outraged ? quite rightly ? that police let him go and that he nearly escaped having to properly account for his actions. But beyond that point of reasonable anger, his liberal critics unreasonably presumed that a) he was self-evidently guilty on the grounds that he was white and his victim was black and b) it was the duty of the court to find him guilty on that basis alone. Technicalities such as lack of evidence, Zimmerman?s right to a fair defence or the superiority of the court system over the knee-jerk opinions of armchair civil rights protestors were regarded as trivialities. When they didn?t get what they wanted from the trial, it confirmed their suspicion that Florida, America, and the whole wide world are engaged in some bizarre conspiracy. God is a ?white racist? who stalks ?young black men?, wrote one Ivy League professor. I guess that makes the ten plagues of Egypt an example of divine racial profiling.
When Obama was first elected, the liberal community was split over how an African-American president should deal with issue of race. Some hoped that he would be a post-racial prez, that he would put racial divisions to rest by symbolising the colour-blind egalitarianism of 21st century America. To Obama?s credit, he has generally tried to do exactly that ? calling for calm during the Zimmerman trial and largely avoiding comment.
But for other liberals, this wasn?t good enough. They wanted Obama to pick up the civil rights causes of the 1960s and use the presidency as a bully pulpit to root out and challenge racism wherever they perceive it to exist. And in the Zimmerman case, it?s the Department of Justice that has taken this more aggressive, radical path. The tragedy is that it threatens to undo the promise of racial harmony that Obama?s election represented. A sad, unnecessary death has been allowed to turn into a national nightmare by mature politicians and legal experts who ought to know better. For them, justice isn?t blind. It?s political.

Boomba · 17/07/2013 21:22

what utter fucking rot wellwobbly

Kiriwawa · 17/07/2013 21:58

Eugh - what a load of wank. Still, the Telegraph is generally raising a rather strong weak gin in the direction of the raj so I'm not terribly surprised

TabithaStephens · 17/07/2013 22:06

That article is completely right.

Kiriwawa · 17/07/2013 22:21

No it isn't, Tabitha. Not least because it blames any failure of the Obama administration on the Trayvon Martin case which is absurd.

Boomba · 17/07/2013 22:31

the whole 'article' is just thick sneering dirge. Its like an adolescents NF diary entry

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 17/07/2013 22:52

That article turned my stomach. What trash.

Sporks article was just disturbing. :(

Agree why the hell was he given a gun? Allowed on neighbourhood watch?

creighton · 17/07/2013 23:26

if you want to report me please do but don't hang a threat over my head like I should give a stuff about you or your opinions.

white America is built on racism towards the black population and it clearly hasn't changed over the years.

TabithaStephens · 17/07/2013 23:58

Clearly it has changed over the years. If it hadn't, there wouldn't be a black president in the white house.

GoshAnneGorilla · 17/07/2013 23:59

"Post-racial"= never mention racial inequality ever, it will magically disappear all by itself.

What the article also omits is what the case verdict can lead to in a Casa Law country. It would appear that you can claim self-defense on extremely flimsy grounds and get away with murder. Chilling.

Ashoething · 18/07/2013 08:23

Yes everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring the fact that this horribly racist nation has a mixed race presidentHmm

No threat Creighton-merely pointing out that there is a chance you could be deleted if you continue with the personal insults and frothing.

creighton · 18/07/2013 08:54

Maybe obama isn't black, white people were keen to emphasise his whiteness and claim him for themselves

Is there any point in discussing race with white people, isn't it just a word game as they are not affected by racism on an ongoing basis?

creighton · 18/07/2013 08:58

Maybe obama isn't black, white people were keen to emphasise his whiteness and claim him for themselves

Is there any point in discussing race with white people, isn't it just a word game as they are not affected by racism on an ongoing basis?

Ashoething · 18/07/2013 09:15

I called him black in a previous comment and was corrected that he is mixed race? I though his cultural heritage was pretty well known no? I believe he even wrote a book about it.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 18/07/2013 09:25

Obama is black, first and foremost. That he's mixed is secondary in the eyes of Americans. Most African Americans are mixed.

Some black people don't even look black, and unless they tell you, you might not know.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 18/07/2013 09:47

Sorry, I got cut off. I was just trying to explain how most Americans view racial identity. It's actually impossible to really define race in any scientific sense.

EldritchCleavage · 18/07/2013 12:14

Call Obama what he wants you to call him. He identifies as black.

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