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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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chocolatespiders · 14/07/2013 23:58

How do you know he had lost him maybe Zimmerman was hiding ready to pounce. Not sure where you hide though as bushes were not apparent in the pictures.

How do you know he was heading back to his car- zimmermans story.

Going to bed now night suelford

AmberLeaf · 15/07/2013 00:01

I could quite agree with this; I just don't quite get how this works for the posters who claim that you do have the right to use physical force if you feel under threat- which is the argument advanced by the Zimmermann apologists on this thread. I am wondering how they can have their cake and eat it

It would appear that you have the right to use force if you feel under threat, but only if the person you feel threatened by is black and you are not.

Yes Im loving those double standards too cory!

Suelford · 15/07/2013 00:07

Actually,the expert said the "injuries were consistent with Zimmerman having his head banged into a sidewalk"

If you are in control of the situation for long enough to fire a warning shot or aim and shoot to injure, then you are obviously not in fear for your life.

If you are ever scrabbling around, having your head pounded on the pavement, whilst the 6 foot, 11 stone man on top of you is punching you in the face and wrestling for your gun, I'm sure you will take the time to fire into the air or aim for his foot.

CheerfulYank · 15/07/2013 03:52

George Zimmerman IS NOT WHITE, Creighton.

ThePowerof3 · 15/07/2013 06:27

Someone said upthread that if Zimmerman had ignored 'A large guy in a hoodie staggering about' he should've been fired from neighbourhood watch! Is that a joke?

creighton · 15/07/2013 08:00

Zimmerman is white

AmberLeaf · 15/07/2013 08:01

Cheerfulyank he is NOT BLACK. He is caucasian, hispanic is a cultural identity not a race.

Must be an american thing, because in the UK zimmerman is white. [to everone except those desperate to prove this wasn't racially motivated]

cjbk1 · 15/07/2013 08:45

just adding my voice in sympathy for Trayvon's family, hopefully this is the start of something
like not bearing arms

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 15/07/2013 08:56

^Cheerfulyank he is NOT BLACK. He is caucasian, hispanic is a cultural identity not a race.

Must be an american thing, because in the UK zimmerman is white. [to everone except those desperate to prove this wasn't racially motivated]^

^^ This, 1000x over!

lljkk · 15/07/2013 08:59

Florida law encourages vigiliante-ism.
This is a classic case of vigiliante-ism gone wrong.
That's the real indictment.
Wrong to try to make this about race.
Much easier to blame race then blame the 2nd Amendment, though. :(

Ashoething · 15/07/2013 09:01

Is this thread still going on? and the posters who are still bleating over the jury's verdict are now calling the others posters's racist and apologists? Really? Honestly you are not doing yourselves or your arguments any favours with the frothing and the personal insults.

emuloc · 15/07/2013 09:04

Ashoething You really are welcome to go to other threads if this one is not to your liking you know!

Ashoething · 15/07/2013 09:05

Thanks emuloc.

curryeater · 15/07/2013 09:05

Gary Younge's article has been taken down, but you can read it here:

pastebin.com/index/R3ugFqJW

show of solidarity today at 4pm

www.facebook.com/events/687148991311411

curryeater · 15/07/2013 09:05

Links!

Gary Younge's article has been taken down, but you can read it here:

pastebin.com/index/R3ugFqJW

show of solidarity today at 4pm

www.facebook.com/events/687148991311411

CheerfulYank · 15/07/2013 09:07

Amber and TattooedQueen I am in NO way denying that this incident was racially motivated, nor have I ever.

When I said George Zimmerman was not white, I was replying to Creighton's post "why does a black man have to justify his existence to any white idiot who bothers him in the street?" George Zimmerman is an idiot, yes, white, no. And I understand what you mean when you say that only in America is a hispanic person not white...but George Zimmerman IS AN AMERICAN. I know many American people who are Hispanic and they do not consider themselves "white". I can guarantee you George Zimmerman does not either.

emuloc · 15/07/2013 09:26

Just watching bbc news and thousands of people protesting in New york last night about the verdict.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 15/07/2013 09:43

So glad the majority see this wasn't a fair verdict.

I hope Trayvon at least gets justice through policy or legislation changes, since the courts failed him so spectacularly.

AmberLeaf · 15/07/2013 10:30

Amber and TattooedQueen I am in NO way denying that this incident was racially motivated, nor have I ever

I didnt say you were, if you read that bit of my post again, you will see I was talking about people in the UK who were saying he is not white.

He is white. Though I do understand why white americans say different.

CheerfulYank · 15/07/2013 10:38

Oh, okay Amber, I see what you mean.

I just meant, he has lived his entire life in a place that does not consider him to be "white", nor does he consider himself to be so. So whether or not he is "white" outside of America is really not relevant to how jurors, etc, would see him.

That probably doesn't make sense. Blush It's closing on five in the morning and I've yet to go to sleep; DD is nocturnal, I swear.

I'm glad to see the pictures of the protests this morning. I hope that they are as peaceful as can be.

Ashoething · 15/07/2013 10:46

Where on the thread have posters said they thought that George zimmermans actions were wise or that he doesn't deserve some sort of punishment? All posters are repeatedly pointing out is that he was put on trial-after immense pressure from the media-and he has been found not guilty of murder.

People who are calling him a vigilante seem to the very ones who are proposing a form of vigilantism themselves-he was tried and justice was served.

Do you think they should keep trying him until they come up with the verdict you agree with? No wait-thankfully America's double jeopardy laws prevent this.

AmberLeaf · 15/07/2013 10:49

The argument of his being white or not is a bit of a red herring though, the point is, he is not black and he is treated differently because of that, also that he treated Trayvon the way he did because Trayvon was black.

If zimmerman were black, he would not have been aquitted, he would also have been locked up the night Trayvon was killed.

Or if Trayvon were white and zimmerman were black...same thing, zimmerman would have been locked up the same night.

zimmermans racial profiling [at best] of Trayvon is one issue, the other is the way justice is very different for and against black people in america.

There can be no denial of that, stats alone prove it.

Im glad too that so many are protesting the verdict. Hope it remains peaceful too.

DD seems to be on British time! Wink

CheerfulYank · 15/07/2013 10:57

No, I know exactly what you mean, and I agree that the odds are astoundingly good that it would have gone just as you say. I was just responding to the "white idiot" comment.

:o Maybe that is DD's issue! She seems to FINALLY be out now, so I'm going to try to lie down. I'll maybe get a few hours in before DS decides to be up and about...is it time for school to start yet?!

AmberLeaf · 15/07/2013 10:59

Have a good rest Cheerfulyank.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/07/2013 11:48

Or if Trayvon were white and zimmerman were black...same thing, zimmerman would have been locked up the same night.

Zimmerman would be on death row right now. A white 17 year old wanders into a predominantly black neighbourhood. The white teenager ends up shot on the ground by an older black man. I say again, Zimmerman would be on death row right now.