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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 22:43

So Old

Wearing a hoodie is not allowed? Being a big bloke is not allowed? Neither of those are criminal offences as far as I know. You'd hate living where I do if you find those things inherently suspicious.

First part of your post I agree,second part not so much.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 22:44

There's a distinct whiff of racism from all the Zimmerman apologists too, although I daresay I'll be ripped to shreds for saying so.

Not by me you won't.

The patronising 'calm down dear' tone another poster referenced is spot on.

Team Trayvon, how disgusting FFS.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 22:46

'staggering about'? walking or staggering?

I also think that there is a weird attitude towards Zimmerman's ethnicity going on though - he is not White - he is a mixed race Hispanic

He isn't black is the point.

Calling him hispanic is a bit questionable in he US context, people will think mexican/puerto rican, zimmerman has a peruvian mother and a white american father, so I dont think his 'hispanic' experience is the same as most who identify as such.

He followed Trayvon because he was black.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 22:47

I'd like to look after me and mine too.
Cept 'mine' appear to be just the sort of people who can get murdered in the street and get blamed for it.

Same MrsDeVere, so the patronising crap on here really gets my goat.

Can't even protect my kids by saying racial profiling is wrong now apparently.

chocolatespiders · 14/07/2013 22:47

and if he saw a big guy in a hoodie staggering about and thought 'ah, it's probbly nuthin'

If you are referring to Trayvon with this then the cctv from when he was in the shop did not show him staggering about

It was raining so why should he not have his hood up, even if it wasnt why should he not have his hood up. My 10 year old dd has many tracksuit tops with hoods and she loves to wear them up.

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 22:47

I totally agree with MrsDV's last post. If my DC were murdered I wouldn't get asked if they were in gangs, etc. If my black, inner city dwelling nephew were murdered my sister would have to convince people he wasn't.

It is absolutely disgusting.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 22:48

22 pages with lots of lies and bullshit opinion trying to prove that Trayvon deserved and was responsible for his own murder.

Fucking disgusting.

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 22:50

Alis, of course a hoodie is allowed
provided you dont mind me judging .

We have two big dogs opposite. One lolls about and licks his balls, the other froths at the mouth, barks loudly and strains at the leash...
pardon me for being judgemental

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 22:50

Except there was no murder, and even Trayvon Martin's own defence team agreed with this. They also agreed that Martin was assaulting Zimmerman when the fatal shot was fired.

Do you agree with this or do you have some other version of events in mind?

cosydressinggown · 14/07/2013 22:50

You should all read this:

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/14/open-season-black-boys-verdict

cosydressinggown · 14/07/2013 22:52

Erm, Old so wearing a hoodie is akin to frothing at the mouth and straining at your leash?! It's clothing. It's normal teenager clothing. Get a grip.

noddyholder · 14/07/2013 22:52

More and more of this crap on MN. I am sickened by what stands for justice in this case.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 22:53

Do you agree with this or do you have some other version of events in mind?

Yes, that he murdered Trayvon and should have been convicted of at least manslaughter.

I don't have to agree with the verdict. Just like I still think OJ was guilty.

AmberLeaf · 14/07/2013 22:54

and even Trayvon Martin's own defence team agreed with this

Trayvons defence team?

Sorry, have I missed something? Trayvon wasn't on trial

You pull me on saying he was murdered then say something like that?

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 22:55

He didn't murder Trayvon. Again, that has been conceded by Martin's defence team. It simply did not happen. Regardless of whether you think it was murder, it wasn't.

And that Gary Younge article in the Guardian is utter despicable.

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 22:55

Sorry, the prosecution team.

cosydressinggown · 14/07/2013 22:57

Tabitha are you related to Zimmerman or something? Because you seem to be devoting a hell of a lot of your time to defending someone who has killed a young, unarmed teenager after taking the law into his own hands, when told explicitly not to. He thought he looked suspicious because he was black. He followed him when told not to and then he killed him. This is the kind of person you're sitting around sticking up for this evening? Seriously?

OldMacEIEIO · 14/07/2013 23:00

cosydressinggown, I admire MN's like tabitha
she is interested in facts, admits and apologises when she makes a mistake and is keen to learn.

she is not a sheep. she does not always follow the herd

farewellfarewell · 14/07/2013 23:02

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chocolatespiders · 14/07/2013 23:02

OldMacEIEIO - I have a deeper laceration on mu arm from catching it lightly on a nail last week. IMO those cuts on the back of his head were not consistent with having your head slammed against concrete. He could have easily of smacked himself in the face with his gun before the police arrived seeing as he knew the self defense law inside out.

No DNA from Zimmerman on Trayvons hand yet he claims he punched him and had hold of his head slamming it on concrete.

Trayvon could not have got his gun as it was dark and tucked into the back of his trousers.
How could he have feared for his life knowing he had a deadly weapon on him.

If he acted in self defense why did he not call an ambulance to treat Trayvon or put him in the recovery position.

I have watched the trial via the internet and was moved by John Guy closing statement. "The last thing Trayvon did on this earth was try to get home" Sad

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 23:03

Old

Get a grip,hoodies are normal clothing Confused

Teenagers wear them, adults them (often having just been to the gym).

You judge men who wear hoodies are being obvious thugs who deserve suspicion and aggression. Do you also judge women who wore a mini skirt and were raped as it being deserved?

TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 23:03

Cases like this where the public believe the narrative being told by the media instead of finding out the facts really get my goat.

Zimmerman had good intentions, he wanted to prevent burglaries in his neighbourhood.

I will probably stop arguing soon because I can tell that people's minds are set in stone. A lot of them were set in stone even before the trial started.

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 23:03

*as being

MrsDeVere · 14/07/2013 23:03

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TabithaStephens · 14/07/2013 23:05

"How could he have feared for his life knowing he had a deadly weapon on him."

Having a deadly weapon on you won't prevent you being killed unless you use it, which is what Zimmerman did.

As for the closing statement, shouldn't you be more concerned with facts rather than statements designed to stir emotions?