to NOT want a cleaner?

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it seems to be very common on MN; paying another person to clean your house. Why can't the adults in the house do it between them? And once the kids are old enough to hold a duste,r teach them to help out as well.

I'd hate someone else in our house cleaning up our mess. It sends a bad message to children too. And no-one in this age of dishwashers, washing machines, vacuum cleaners is too busy to do it themselves.

I have a cleaner. I call him DP

Oooh you'd hate me op.

I'm on maternity leave and we have a cleaner.

What do I do with my time?

Go and find something else to judge worry about.

And yes, Jajas, I think you might be right.

Jajas - several people asked me how big my house was, so I answered them.

Don't understand why people are getting so worked up. This is MN, we ask questions, give opinions. That's what I did. And I maintain that, barring disability, every one can and should clean their own homes.

Just the 4 bedrooms? Only 2 bathrooms? Edwardian?

If you had a 6 bedroom, 3 bathroom, Georgian house then you would understand.

(Before I get shot, I don't have that and this is not a stealth boast).

Apart from you asserting it as a fact, could you explain why everyone should clean their own home?

Most people could do their domestic cleaning without a great deal of effort if they put their mind to it, it only takes minutes every day if you're on top of things and usually your house ends up cleaned to a better standard than if you have someone coming in once a week for 2 hours.

I think it is rather lax and lazy of people in modest sized homes to have cleaners i would say, mostly it's just so they can boast to friends about "having a cleaner" and a middle class affectation.

OP - I am perfectly capable of cleaning. Give me one good reason why I SHOULD do it when I can afford to pay someone else to do it. I suppose I might think like you had I been brought up to clean .

The oddly anti people on this thread seem to be under the misapprehension that people with cleaners do nothing around the house at all. It's quite clearly not the case if you actually read the thread.

As for middle class affectation - pfft. Have some fish to go with the chip on your shoulder.

Do you think your cleaner was brought up to clean?

It's a job. Not indentured servitude. You may find housework demeaning, I don't and neither does my highly professional cleaner.

Obviously marriedinwhite feels differently about her cleaner .

If I wanted to boast to friends about having a cleaner, but didn't feel that I actually wanted to have a cleaner and was perfectly happy to do my own cleaning, then I am quite capable of lying. That would have the obvious advantage of saving me £30 per week. However my home would be filthy as I have no inclination to clean at all.

A 3 bed house with a bathroom and a couple of receptions - it really doesnt take long to dust and vacuum . Mostly the people who have go that kind of size house and have cleaners are just lazy and wasting their money - and then they complain about how expensive things are or how they can't save money when they are throwing good money away like that.

My cleaner's lovely - she's been with me for years. She gets paid well and we have a very good relationship.

What about the ones that don't complain about how expensive things are or how they can't save money? Are they allowed cleaners. Perhaps there should be a committee of people who all clean their own houses to decide who is allowed a cleaner and you would need to make an application and attend an interview.

Shes not your equal though is she?

Theinets I challenge you to name three people (on your head will do you don't have to out them) of your personal acquaintance who have a cleaner and moan about the cost of things/saving etc as you allege. I think you'll struggle.

Do you also think renting is "dead money" by any chance?

Not a bad idea!

My cleaner is certainly my equal. My cleaner does a job for money and so do I.

I was talking to marriedinwhite.

Yes of course I can clean my house. I can do a lot of things I have decided to outsource. You have not given any reasonable explanation though why cleaning is the one I definitely should not outsource.

If someone is renting their house and employing a cleaner and moaning about not being able to afford to buy a place, they should perhaps cut out the cleaner and start saving a deposit!