To be very angry and disheartened about the wave of misogyny in popular culture these days?

[PineCones]

Apparently the more things change, the more they stay the same!
This song that has been playing all over the radio (albeit with the offensive word changed to 'loving')- these are the lyrics to the uncut version. the whole song is about p. and there are references to 'kill(ing) that btch'. It even ends on a very audible obscentiy (check last line), that is not random, oh no. it's directed at a woman.
just WHAT gives some jumped up media personality the right to sing a song as offensive, reducing a whole woman to just her private parts, and live off the royalties?
when did it become like this? that a wildly popular icon such as JayZ had to say he would stop using the B word because now the world has stopped spinning and time has stood still he has a pweshus daughter and voila! no woman can ever be a btch ever again!

you have girls mutilating themselves, women becoming pneumatic caricatures. Songs glorifying domestic violence. Idiots asking chris brown to beat them on Twitter.
Terribly mean comments directed at women on youtube- almost always using the B word, sexual characteristics, whether the commenter would 'do them', and so on.
and this is only references in popular culture. i'm not even going to get into FGM. Female foeticide. Female infanticide. Dowry deaths. Molestation. Rape. Rape as a political tool rather than crime. Domestic violence. Lowered expectations for women's achievements because they're 'only women'.
Where does it end?
Feeling very today. I really liked that song till I searched for it on youtube to play whilst working, and found the uncut version.

Yes! Blame the mothers for certain men's misogyny.

If it wasn't so absurd it would be laughable...

Because, of course, grown men cannot be responsible for their own actions.

Next thing you'll be suggesting somehow women who report rapes aren't just vindictive bitches who were really gagging for it.

"Please don't rise to jhsm2- he/she has said something very objectionable on another thread and is obviously out to shock. Best ignored."

YANBU at all OP. It's horribly depressing. And of course it's misogynistic - as is the word 'twattishness' itself

Jay-Z is an utter moron. Now that he's had a baby, and of course no-one in the history of the word has ever had a baby before, he's worried about watching his language. Didn't he think enough of his partner, now wife, and his mother/sister/cousins/female friends/employees to watch his language before now? Muppet

Agree with you pinecones. It is absolutely sickening.

I worry for my dd. I assumed when she was young that she would have it easier than me - I would think though that she will have it harder.

Doesn't JayZ manage that young child of Will Smith? a 10 year old pop star who is being marketed to death?

That'll be his dd in 10 years time, I imagine.

I just wanted to holler at her 'stand up straight, ffs'

Ooops - wrong thread.

yanbu

and the lyrics are awful without the points you mention , they make no sense !

What GetOrf said:

"I worry for my dd. I assumed when she was young that she would have it easier than me - I would think though that she will have it harder"

That is the most depressing thing.

getord - it's worse for our DDs now. When I was growing up violent sexual mysoginistic language was largely repressed because society was more prudish. Now we let it all hang out, including the bits that we really should be ashamed of.

That was meant to be 'getorf'. Who is is this getord person?

Somebody will be along in a minute to explain why we are being humourless harridans with too much time on our hands for not liking this sort of thing. That's what usually happens when the mysogenist status quo is challenged on here.

I really dislike seeing this ^ on a chatboard. Who gives a shiney shit what you or anybody else thinks about this song, rappers or whatever because you know... if you were really bothered about it, you'd do something about it, not bleat impotently on a chatboard.

I'll call that whenever I see it on a chatboard; a woman berating others for their views whilst doing nothing of use themselves.

Yes, because now if dd hears anything offensive she is supposed to laugh along and join in. To protest would mean she was a humourless bitch.

Who's laughing about it though, GetOrf, anybody in your vicinity? Because there's nobody in my circle who would find it remotely funny. There's no protesting on a chatboard that I can see, just berating other women, which I HATE.

@ Getorf

The words are the least of it, unfortunately.

Keep your DCs away from music videos for as long as possible.

Sorry, GetOrf, you were responding to OrmIrian

But who is berating other women lying? The OP was objecting to the words of an offensive song.

ok we may not like what jay-z and other rappers portray but what about his influence over young black men, you can be a success no matter what background you come from and the colour of your skin

i am really not sure what people expect from him to be responsible for middle class children who have not grown up with violence as part of their lives, whose mothers have been respected and have had careers, where selling drugs and gun crime is not a way of life, where women are equal, this is not his experience he writes about what is relevant to himself and it is at times brutally honest

Ormirian, I wasn't objecting to the OP, I think she's absolutely right. It was seeker's post along the thread that go up my nose.

But it does happen though. People objecting to porn/violent mysogynistic language and images are often labelled as frigid killjoys with no sense of humour. I am not sure how acknowledging that means berating women for their choices.

Lying, is that because you were about to post that we were all humourless harridans with too much time on our hands?

No, Boulevard. I posted earlier that I think the OP is right. Some of the 'flock' can't seem to post on AIBU without suggesting that sort of thing though. It's really condescending and I take exception to it.

Eh?

just on this point
"that a wildly popular icon such as JayZ had to say he would stop using the B word because now the world has stopped spinning and time has stood still he has a pweshus daughter and voila! no woman can ever be a b*tch ever again!"
It's a fake rumour. He never said it.