I bet she's got an embarrassingly baggy vagina and can't get a boyfriend

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Whoops, I meant embarrassingly small penis and can't get a girlfriend.

Nearly said something terribly sexist there!

Pliny - MN is at pains to establish itself as an all inclusive Boden - wearing bastion of middle class reasonableness (although they might deny it!). They are effectively a huge high street brand on the Internet. Comparing MN to dodgy little grudge sites is like comparing Marks and Sparks to Johnny Nobrot's House of Rubber and Pain down Piss Alley in Soho!

The price of size and status is that people then hold you to higher standards. MN is regularly quoted on the news which means more focus is placed on what is said here.

There is sexism against men and women on MN. Most of it is called.

Where is the problem.

Look at the sites linked. They really are a problem.

Ha ha! Can you imagine SQ one of the men on there starting a thread, wringing his hands and telling the other posters to desist from calling all women gold-digging whores etc etc etc. The hatred on there is phenomenal.

Is there an equivalent website out there filled with women? Haven't found one yet.

There was actually a thread not so long ago that was taking the Mick out of guys with small dicks.

It ended with a well known mn feminist castigating those who found it so funny.

You can't filter out the odd idiot, you just have to accept there are people who don't think before posting.

I've seen men described as sperm doners twice recently in Lone Parents without any knuckle rapping or indeed comment. But I know most mn'ers are decent souls.

Nesbo you beat me to what I was going to see but have said it in a much more concise way!

Realisitically, there would be nothing to be achieved trying to reason with the cretins that posted that filth on the link. If you want to promote equality you're far more likely to be able to do so on a site like MN because most of its members aren't filled with violent pyschopathic thoughts and are surely capable of a reasoned discussion...right?

Nesbo Ah yes....well I guess Dick Masterson's many media appearances, sales of his book and the fact that that site is maintained by user donations lets it off the hook. It's just not 'corporate' enough to be held to liberal equality standards - or indeed it appears even the law, judging by some of the more vile statements.

Must say I don't really understand that argument.

There's both male and female sexism on many other forums too...however I think the amusing thing about MN is how many people deliberately fail to see or admit it.

Hear hear.

The difference between this site and millions of other forums is the fact that on this site, sexism is something that is regularly debated as an issue and as a concern.

Other sites do have a problem, but they aren't effectively trying to take the moral high ground as such like people on MN do.

How can you expect other sites to sort their site out when you won't do it in your own back garden and admit when there is a problem there and tackle that first?

Isn't admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery or something?

Actually there is a thread on Mumsnet at the moment where women have actually agreed that mandatory DNA testing on all babies is a good idea to prove that the mother is not lying about who the father is.

Sexist yes, but it works both ways sometimes.

Panda do you really think that the only people posting really offensive stuff about women out there are psychopaths?

Most are likely very standard everyday men.

There is some terrible sexism against women on here it's true.

So I don't get the "double standard" accusation.

yawnitty yawn yawn yawn

Women can be sexist.
Men can be sexist.
Neither is acceptable and you'll find that most are pulled up on Mumsnet for being so.
But I'd like to see you try your quote on PistonHeads and compare their answers to the ones you have got on this thread OP. Then tell us which site has the most intelligent and reasonable posters. My bets are not on PistonHeads.

If people think this site gives men a hard time ( which it doesn't, not decent men anyway) they should look no further than the other well known parenting site, the phrase "infantalising men" seems wholly inadequate.

What does go on in here is the frequent challenging of the old myths about what men are, which is a good thing, it doesn't seem to happen anywhere else online.

Thank God.

I clicked on this thread CONVINCED it was about me but it's just some dullard bleating on.

It prolly is about you Bups, I bet you've said that someone has a small willy on MN before now. I know I have.
But as I feel I have been equally poisonous about both genders and all body types, I can take the Dullard Wrath.

Can you imagine being lumbered with both.

Mr Gin. To be fair, most of the sperm donor comments have been about men who were that of their own volition. i.e. the ones who impregnated the woman then pissed off without ever putting any emotional or financial effort into raising it. You can hardly call the fathers.

Thank God.

I clicked on this thread CONVINCED it was about me but it's just some dullard bleating on.

I thought EXACTLY the same!

"I bet this thread's about Bupcakes" I sez to meself

"I've seen men described as sperm doners twice recently in Lone Parents without any knuckle rapping or indeed comment. But I know most mn'ers are decent souls."

Were those men being called sperm doners active, contributing, involved parents to the children? Or, more likely, were they men who had had children and then walked off into the sunset without so much as a look back? Or men who see the children a couple of times a year and bleat about having to pay CM?

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark that it's probably the latter rather than the former.

I'm an equal-opps hater, me.

Watch out Bups

I kep reading this thread title and singing "baggy vagina" tot the tune of "Baggy Trousers". What would Suggs say?

Is bleating the same as being shrill?

Do I win a prize for being dismissed on an imagined tone of voice? Can I give a random person a shoeing because the universe owes me one now?

Yes, the prize is a big lovely hug.