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I bet she's got an embarrassingly baggy vagina and can't get a boyfriend

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Catstwattypoosituation · 24/02/2012 11:00

Whoops, I meant embarrassingly small penis and can't get a girlfriend.

Nearly said something terribly sexist there!

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Giyadas · 24/02/2012 12:30

I agree totally with SardineQueen.
Misogyny is everywhere on the net. There is nothing comparable on MN. When the eye-rolly tut men, stuff is posted there are always posters who pick up on it. When anti-women stuff is posted that is also picked up on, but then the insults about feminists start flying.

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 12:30

So sites with women on are expected to be free of sexism while sites frequented by men can be as sexist as they like?

For christs sake have people seen what is out there? And there are complaints that someone on MN said "he's probably got a small dick" in 2006 and everyone told them off?

FFS

Hullygully · 24/02/2012 12:31

wot SQ said

Nesbo · 24/02/2012 12:32

SQ - as a "strong opinionated woman" I can't imagine you would be shy at challenging sexist/misogynistic behaviour on a site that you really enjoyed using, in fact I reckon you would get stuck in and start knocking heads together! Are you surprised people also comment about it on here sometimes, or do you think it should be meekly accepted without comment?

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 12:35

I always point out on here when I see something that I think is unfair on men. Or women.

I think it is unfair to have a go at MN as being outrageously sexist when it a. isn't and b. is always called when it happens, while there is stuff out there that would make right-thinking people vomit and no-one gives a monkeys.

Would I go onto a website with vile stuff being written about women and tell them off? Of course not. What sort of response would I get? Worse than that 15yo got. Certainly not a response like here - to what is obviously a troll OP.

WorraLiberty · 24/02/2012 12:38

So sites with women on are expected to be free of sexism while sites frequented by men can be as sexist as they like?

Are you deliberately reading posts and misunderstanding them? Confused

I haven't seen anyone say sites frequented by men can be as sexist as they like?

Sexism is wrong, whether it's coming from men or women.

That's it really.

porcamiseria · 24/02/2012 12:38

YANBU

and 2 wrongs done make a right, thats the second time ive said that today!!!!

bejeezus · 24/02/2012 12:40

What is the most sexist thing you have read on MN?

Nesbo · 24/02/2012 12:42

Perhaps the category of comments about men you think are unfair is a small one!

In any event people shouldn't be afraid to comment if they don't like something they read. You can agree or disagree (just as you disagree now) but surely that is healthier than just mute unthinking acceptance?

And I would hope that if there was a website you used full of interesting discussion by intelligent people but you saw the odd comment that gave you pause then you would say so.

SuePurblybilt · 24/02/2012 12:42

So which thread is this about? Or is it just a general PorMenz rant?

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 12:45

Should point out that on that reddit thing there were of course some men who said that others had overstepped the mark. But that fact that anyone thought it was OK in the first place is just horrifying, let alone the numbers that did.

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 12:46

Mute unthinking acceptance is what happens all over the net with stuff about females.

Sexist comments about men on MN are always challenged.

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 12:56

Incidentally, if we are talking about sexism and double standards on this site.

I see much more sexist talk about women go unchallenged than about men. On this site.

sunshineandbooks · 24/02/2012 12:58

Completely agree with SQ. The thing about sexism is that it's all well and good saying it should be dealt with fairness (i.e. stop sexism against men as well as sexism against women) but define fairness.

IMO fairness means proportionately, in the sense that higher rate tax payers pay a higher proportion of their ways in tax because they will still be better off than a low earner paying less of a proportion of their income in tax.

So, for example, as women experience way more sexism than men, then attempts to stamp out sexism need to place greater emphasis on sexism against women than men. If you do it exactly 'equally' rather than with 'fairness', you could end up with a situation - in a society that already favours men - where sexism against men is eradicated but sexism against women remains barely touched.

Indeed, we're seeing just that right now. The application of sex discrimination laws to help men as well as women have resulted in women being forced to pay more for car insurance (despite being significantly less likely statistically to have accidents) while women's position in the workforce is worse now that at any point in the last 10 years in terms of the cumulative effect of the glass ceiling, gender pay gap, number of women out of work and women in top positions.

Catstwattypoosituation · 24/02/2012 12:58

Either it's ok to make sexist comments or it's not.

If it's not, don't make them.

Or is that giant vagina talk?

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SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 13:00

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Nesbo · 24/02/2012 13:02

So its a good thing to challenge sexist attitudes and language when you see it and we should all hope and encourage that attitude to spread (including to sites used by arseholes that neither of us would touch with the shitty end of a barge pole). Sounds good to me.

WorraLiberty · 24/02/2012 13:02

OP if you wish to challenge sexism on here you are free to do so.

SQ it's quite rude to tell someone to trot off to another website

Plinypatus · 24/02/2012 13:04

Point well made sunshineandbooks about fairness and proportionality

Must say I've never found a website by women dedicated to hating men in the same way as www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/forums/ - this forum is established SOLELY for me who hate women to talk about how much they hate women.

SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 13:12

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SardineQueen · 24/02/2012 13:13

Oooh that's a lovely site pliny.

What sort of response would I get if I started a thread like this, over there?

I think we can all imagine, so I'm not going to Smile

minimisschief · 24/02/2012 13:15

so many childish posts. Not one person has thought to themselves, you know what there are alot double standards and inappropriate remarks about men on here lets try to work together to make this a better place.

I mean this website goes on about equality and such like you would think people would want to set a better example. And who better than parents of the next generation.

Either that or stop banging on about gender sterotypes and equality and how peoples comments aren't politically correct because it is rather hypocritical attitude to have.

verityverbiage · 24/02/2012 13:19

I think this thread is about common decency to the sexes as opposed to a full blown discussion about feminism.

We shouldn't be sexist to each other in a derogatory way it's as simple as that.

GreenEyesAndHam · 24/02/2012 13:20

"Heal the world...make it a bedder place...."

Hmm