To be very scared at the details of the Universal tax credit?

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I had no idea.

I've been away from the UK, and just saw the actual proposals/rules on another thread.

Its bad right?

I imagine there is another thread on this so if there is, sorry ...I can't find it! :)

I said she should have charged him double or bit his nob off

I think people would pay NOT to see mine

Why thank you IdoNot!
I guess there is a reason these policy makers can't hack it in the real world eh?

I have been online off and on all day searching for real info about the working hours of single parents under the new UC.
It's all really vague.
I hope HuntyCat turns up and tells us where she got the stats.
I am starting to think that our esteemed government don't want us to know what they are up to. But that's paranoid,right?

Off to bed for me.

X post totem.

This caught my eye from your link:

End of February 2012 - Royal assent of the Welfare Reform Bill.

Don't do it Liz!

Night night

NorthernWreck, I think one of the problems about the information we're getting is the bill isn't finalised. It's just been passed back from the Lords again for ammendments.

Also, it's worded in more general terms. E.g. they can't be specific in monetary terms as it needs to remain valid for a number of years.

Today ds and I went together to buy him a heated under blanket from argos to make help him sleep. So I am a using-tax-credits-abusing-slaaag.

I wish northernwreck was my new best friend.
I never go out.

The DWP doc says:

Lone parents will only be expected to look for work that is compatible with school hours. 9-3, term time? So dinner lady, school receptionist/secretary or TA/support staff. Even then it would have to be at the same school that your children attend, or work less hours allowing for travel to the other place. The only other things I can think of are lunch time waiting and bar jobs.

whoring?

CEO?

I suppose you could do UA. Then grass on the clients for shagging when they should be at work. That'll free up a few more jobs.

i'm really scared, i'm scared for myself and i'm scared for all the single parents out there, who have no other wage but their own to fall back on.

i hate this government, i really do. they certainly don't seem to value the hard work most mums put in trying to ensure their child grows up to be a kind, loving, self sufficient, hard working, fully functioning member of society. we need support and it feels like we are now going to be punished?? our kids are the future, how can we parent them to the best of our ability if we are forced into a job that doesn't fit in with childcare? and how do they expect us to afford childcare if we have to work more hours? surely they understand that we don't all have grandparents on hand to take over?

I am terrified.
my dd is severely disabled and has no voice,
I cannot look after her 24/7 for the rest of my life, but because of the cuts no doubt I will have to. we are looking at adult provision now. it is so silly as there won't be any.
yet no one cares.
I didn't choose this life, she most certainly didn't choose it, the NHS did by causing her disability.
yet people like her will pay. they are the ones who should under no circumstances be touched by the cuts.

Jingle, dont be scared lovely. We are all in it together.

Also, I am built like a brick shit house

and I know where Cameron lives

sevenfold i am so sorry, it's so unfair.

unlikelyamazonian let's go and get the bastard! and yes, we are all in it together, it's just such a shame we are all put in this position.

come back tony blair, all is forgiven!!!

Seven and Jingle

I know where that twat lives as well We'll get him and pin him down and give him a really stupid haircu... oh, wait...

IDoNotLIKEFun hahahahaha!!!!!!!

I think Charlie Brooker had the right idea..

The arsewipe should be made to shag a pig on live TV, except he'd probably enjoy it..

"they certainly don't seem to value the hard work most mums put in trying to ensure their child grows up to be a kind, loving, self sufficient, hard working, fully functioning member of society"

Its daft to think you need to be a SAHM to do that and abdicate financial responsibility to the state.

Given children are at school for 6 hours a day from age 5 (lots go to nursery 15 hours a week from age 3) and only 24 hours is needed to meet the criteria at primary age its hardly like leaving them for the whole day and night! A few hours childcare wont hurt a child, parents leave their sides to send them to school so no different.

I think it just highlights why change is long overdue. People should not be able to have children and expect the state to support them as they dont want to work or use childcare. Thats not what the welfare state was set up for. It should of course be there for those short term between jobs or physically disabled and that will always exist.

HappyMummy - it wont be just 24 hours though. From 2013 new claimants will have to earn a certain amount either singularly or jointly - for some jobs it isnt going to be enough is it, or does the country not value cleaners, lower paid manual staff etc.

No Happyinherts.
You either have to work for 16 hours as a single parent or a min of 35 hours as a couple. For NWM. And in return you get topped up by the state.
That isn't too much to ask it is ?

Why, oh why all this procrastination for the Eton Tory party??

Come on, put your hand up your dress and find your balls Cameron.

Just open up the work houses again, do it, thats where we're headed.

I'm also scared, some of the narratives here have broke my heart and made it skip with fear for all of us.

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Its ridiculous that only one disabled person per household will get DLA. Im disabled, dd is severely disabled. if I lose DLA how the fuck will I pay for my wheelchair? Without my chair there's no chance of me going out to work.

Happymum you forget there are almost 3 million people unemployed - that's 8 people for every job.

Where are all these extra hours coming from?

What about people who currently have 18 or 20 hours who will need to up their hours to 24? Should they leave secure, permanent jobs to gain the extra few hours?

I'm afraid in reality the 'conditionality' clause will unworkable in practice. Only in a full employment economy would it be fair or practical - and that has never existed in this country for the last 100+ years!!

HappyMummyOfOne just the physically disabled ?