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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to put the children in economy while DH and I fly business class?

860 replies

OfCourseIveNameChangedForThis · 17/02/2012 11:50

Testing name change.

OP posts:
GetOrfMoiiLand · 17/02/2012 14:06

Would you be allowed to swap seats like that?

Must say I have never seen anyone do it. I would think that it wouldn't be allowed.

lostboysfallin · 17/02/2012 14:07

Oh fgs
The children will just be a few rows back.
They are only going to watch movies or play games or read or sleep.
they won't appreciate the finer things of bus class and they won't care

Can't believe all the fuss

lambethlil · 17/02/2012 14:08

Why not put DH in Business or First on the way back only and travel together on the way there?

If he's working the day after you get back he'll be refreshed.

I've travelled long haul with the Dcs several times, occasionally in Business, usually in Economy and although they don't need an adult at that age, its nice to be around in case of sickness etc. TBH I don't get the idea of entertaining them on a flight after the age of 3- they have films and food and they're tied up- heaven. Wink

CrashLanded · 17/02/2012 14:09

You may want to check with the airline: as a longhaul journey, the airline may class this arrangement in the same way as "unaccompanied minors". Depends on the airline.

Would it be fair to put the children in economy or premium economy while we fly business class? No, it would not be fair on the other passengers unless you can guarantee that your 8 and 10 year olds will behave for the whole of the 8-10 hour journey.

runningwilde · 17/02/2012 14:09

You DO sound like you are clawing for posts thru validate your completely selfish idea - just because your eldest is 'mature' it doesn't mean you leave them in economy whilst you sit in business. Not only are you selfish, you are displaying that you are happy to do extremely lazy parenting. I can't believe you would even think it - selfish and lazy.

LydiaWickham · 17/02/2012 14:09

GetofMoiiLand - airlines aren't supposed to let you swap seats unofficially once you're on the plane (although as a group you can swap at check in) - basically it's so if there's a crash they can make sure the right bits of people get labelled correctly.

mummymeister · 17/02/2012 14:09

My husband is 6ft 9 tall we went premium economy to florida and sat in the front row. he had masses of leg room. unless your husband is taller than this then he will too. sorry this isnt about comfort, or sleeping or whatever else. it is about what he feels is his entitlement. as some MN's will know i had an "incident" on a plane from USA. if this happened to you, you would not be able to get out of your seat to go and be with your kids. yes it is v v unlikely to happen but thats what i thought and then it happened to me.Your kids should come first they are the kids he is the adult. he should sacrifice his desire to be in first class/business class for his kids. i have read all of the threads and can see why some say it is exciting to be on you own and that is of course true but only if everything is OK and sometimes it isnt. for this reason alone then OP i think YABU - with regards to your DH words fail me but safe to say he is BIU

GetOrfMoiiLand · 17/02/2012 14:12

lol at lydia - how macabre Grin

CreamolaFoamless · 17/02/2012 14:12

you are treating you children like hand luggage Hmm

bonkersLFDT20 · 17/02/2012 14:18

Certainly the child of 10 has to have someone over the age of 16 to be responsible for them, which I am pretty sure mean sitting near them, or certainly in the same class.

Which coast of the US are you talking about? If it's East Coast it's barely time to get worried about anyway.

I think it's a shame that even on holiday the fact that your DH's stressful and tiring job has to be taken into consideration. Is he like that on holiday as well?

bonkersLFDT20 · 17/02/2012 14:22

..didn't word that very well. You get my drift.

dikkertjedap · 17/02/2012 14:26

YANBU, as Trix already pointed out on the previous page, your DH has to fly business class, no way round that, he works hard. Don't forget he has already deferred his bonus as well, what else do you expect him to do? Get real, give the man a break.

However, you don't work hard, so why can't you sit with the kids? Or do you also work hard and have you also deferred your bonus? In that case, by all means go business class as well.

As far as the kids go, I doubt they work hard and they certainly haven't deferred their bonus, so there is not reason that they should fly business class. Also, they are lucky you allow them to fly premium. Actually, they are very lucky you fly them full stop. Have they really deserved a Holiday? Can't you park them somewhere? They are the right age to send on a residential Camp somewhere? What about Grandparents, other family, friends, can't they look after them, so you can have some quality time with your DH, because don't forget he is a hard working man, probably in his office all hours of the week, 7 days a week, so it is unlikely that you get much quality time.

Hope you have a nice Holiday with or without kids. Don't feel guilty about it. You got what you got because you work hard and deserve it. Wink

CreamolaFoamless · 17/02/2012 14:28

Oh for the love of god .........if you canna be arsed sitting beside your children on a plane ......why the chuffing hell are you contemplating going on holiday with them in the first place

GetOrfMoiiLand · 17/02/2012 14:29

Grin at dikker

MULLYPEEP · 17/02/2012 14:30

YABU. Could you not sit with your children then? Daddy sounds lovely.

Trix2323 · 17/02/2012 14:30

I'd like to share a related incident that I once witnessed.

I was on a long-haul flight with two of my DCs (in economy), DH and DS1 were across the aisle. Two children were seated behind me and and didn't appear to be with any grown up. It was a night flight. Shortly after take-off, the mother appeared. She introduced herself to me, explained that she was in B-class with her DH, and that her DCs were behind me. She asked me to feel free to fetch her if they needed anything. "But don't worry," she said, "They are going to sleep." And with that, she popped a little sleeping pill into each of their mouths. Shock

I didn't hear anything from them for the next ten hours. Wink

imho, it was unreasonable of her to give children who looked around 10 and 12 a sleeping pill, but I didn't think the seating arrangement unreasonable at all.

Yellowstone · 17/02/2012 14:30

Haven't read the whole thread so someone has probably suggested this but why do you need to be with your V. Imp/ Stressed DH in Business - why not slum it in Economy so that at least one of you takes proper responsibility for the kids?

mrsjay · 17/02/2012 14:31

Why are you even considering this sit with the children and the rest of the plebs like a normal familiy !

Ghoulwithadragontattoo · 17/02/2012 14:31

Can I just say if your name change had not worked the title would have totally given the game away anyway.

bonkersLFDT20 · 17/02/2012 14:34

My MIL used to be an "Auntie" employed by Virgin. She would be the responsible adult for bunches of unmins travelling to and from Hong Kong and the UK (school and holidays).

She told me that sometimes the parents would use the Auntie service even though they were on the flight. They were not meant to and it always made her sad to see the children who knew their parents didn't want to sit with them.

Katiepoes · 17/02/2012 14:34

We hire a private jet. My husband simply can't bear the stress of a schedule flight wth people who might not understand the pressure of his work and (sob) deferred bonus and object to parking the heir and spare at the back. Usually there is some kindly char lady to take care of them but we simply can't risk it.

Go on a short haul holiday or tell him to get over himself. Have you any idea how spoiled you sound?

zipzap · 17/02/2012 14:35

why not fly somewhere and then cruise home? maybe not so good if you are going to NZ etc but if you are off to the states or the depths of Europe - would be do-able and I doubt it would cost any more than the equivalent costs for accommodation and flights back from the US

Plus - would give you all plenty of time to be together as a family, lots of relaxing for your dh and he would get back having worked off the jetlag as you cruised so would be super fresh for work...

happygilmore · 17/02/2012 14:35

Is your husband Stephen Hester?

CreamolaFoamless · 17/02/2012 14:36

quote by dikkertjedap your DH has to fly business class, no way round that, he works hard

*As far as the kids go, I doubt they work hard and they certainly haven't deferred their bonus, so there is not reason that they should fly business class

what parellel universe do your live in ?

Or where you being ironic Confused

MrsWobble · 17/02/2012 14:38

apart from cost in what way is this dilemma different to a family flying easyjet and ending up in different parts of the plane? The safety/supervision aspects are identical - the only difference is cost/status.

on almost all the flights we've done in the last couple of years the children end up sitting together and dh and I sit together somewhere else - not by design but becasue that's how easyjet works - (and I refuse to pay speedy boarding fees).