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AIBU?

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to not give these women any more opportunities to exclude me?

324 replies

MomoandTeddington · 08/02/2012 10:04

I have namechanged.

At my 8 year old DD's school there is a group of mums, 9 of them. I have known most of them for several years since DD was at nursery with their DC. A couple of them live in the same road as me. The ones that I haven't known since nursery have been added to their group along the way, one knows one of the mums from tennis club and another lives next door to another one. I have always liked them all and got on well with them all, but I always feel they have excluded me a bit.

For example, they will arrange nights out and not invite me, yet invite me to others. Last time I went on a night out with them they were all talking about their previous night out to X restaurant and it suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't been invited on that one. I said "Oh, you didn't invite me on that one, girls" and one of them said "oooops probably shouldn't have mentioned that night out". They will invite me if they are having, say, a bodyshop party and want as many attendees as possible, but then other things they exclude me from.

I am probably the closest to one of them who lives a few doors down from me, we text each other occasionally and sometimes meet up for coffee, however for the past few months she has continually said about meeting up and then when I've suggested a day and time she has either been busy or forgotten or cancelled at very short notice. So I have now stopped suggesting meeting up with her, and am leaving the ball in her court.

The other thing they do is if one or two of them talk to me outside the school, they will be very vague with me and keep looking over my shoulder or behind them for other members of their group, and if they see one of them they will start smiling and waving at them and I feel they never listen to what I say, and sometimes are just waiting for me to go so that they can continue their conversation. One morning recently 3 were talking to me, they then all said they had to go, so I went off in my direction and they in theirs. A while later I went out in the car and saw them still talking in a group but they had moved round the corner to the other side of the school where they thought I wouldn't see when I'd gone. this morning two started talking to me and asking me about something that has happened to me recently, and I started talking too and next thing they were both looking over my head waving at someone wildly, totally ignoring what I said so I just said "Oh, bye then" and walked off.

I have decided I am not going to give them any more opportunities to exclude me. I am going to decline all invites out, and will say hello and be polite if I see them but it will be more of a "say hello and carry on walking with the buggy" than a hello and a chat. I am also not going to suggest any meet ups with any of them again. Another one of them and I went to an exercise class together once a week for a while but it dawned on me recently it was me making all the effort and so I stopped contacting her to see what would happen and she hasn't contacted me since. She always says she is busy yet has plenty of time for meet ups with the rest of them, but if I suggested meeting up in the day she would suggest a date in 2 or 3 months time because she's so busy, presumably hoping I would forget.

AIBU to think "stuff the lot of them"? I have other friends at the school, and other friend away from school btw. I don't think its me or anything I do/don't do, I think it's more that I'm not quite good enough for their clique.

OP posts:
perfectstorm · 09/02/2012 16:48

Agreed, she was deeply unpleasant. Mumsnet agreed and deleted. So why sink to her subterranean level?

perfectstorm · 09/02/2012 16:49

Incidentally, anyone is welcome to visit my tiny hovel and minging family members any time.

aldiwhore · 09/02/2012 16:58

Wondered why this had got 300+ posts...

Garliccheesechips · 09/02/2012 17:37

Because it went a bit bananas in the middle Aldi.

historyrepeats · 09/02/2012 17:50

Meh.

warthog · 09/02/2012 19:14

irony IS this thread.

cheekyseamonkey · 09/02/2012 21:03

warthog isn't it?

MadameCastafiore · 10/02/2012 16:57

I find it quite funny that I stuck up for myself saying that I have a great life after the OP said she felt sorry for me because I must have a crap life.

Well I don't it's great actually - not shallow and boring - I am very lucky to have a very fulfilling life, both at home and at work - but my point was that we can all say things to make others feel smaller than we perceive ourselves - like the failure of someone's relationship and them having to move back in with their mother and the fact that she is better educated and has travelled and bought her own house - this is what I was trying to point out which it seems a lot of people had missed - I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who thought they were better than others because her own relationship had not gone through the difficulties one of the 'cliquey' womens had. I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who thought it was ok to state that they thought they were better as they had been educated to a higher degree than myself - something the OP did say.

I find it completely odd that no one picked up her post slagging the women off who she so desperately wants to be friends with to the extent where she would post what she has on here.

It doesn't bother me either that people say that they don't find my husband attractive either becasue I think he is but them I am of the mind that we don't all have the same taste and you wouldn't have clicked on my profile to see Brad Pitt because I don't find him attractive in the least. That's shallow really isn't it, I see further than what I find atractive and posted how lovely he is because I love him for the things that I wouldn't if I were shallow.

If someone walks round the corner to talk to someone maybe they don't want you to know what they are talking about, maybe it is something that they feel you would judge them on, as you have stating that one had to move back in with their mother. Maybe you weren't invited to something because there were only so many places but to mention it is pretty bad form and is done to make people feel uncomfortable.

valiumredhead · 10/02/2012 16:59

See? I said you wouldn't care! Wink

MadameCastafiore · 10/02/2012 17:12

To be fair my picture have been on here for years and I had a thread where I asked about some houses and people asked me to put my house on here so they could look at it and most were extremely nice about it. I haven't always had a fab life most of the people that have been here for as long as I have will know my background and why I first came to mumsnet and that is why I feel so bloody blessed.

I would quite happily take whatever anyone on here said to me and I would happily say to the OP what I have on here to her face. If someone doesn't want to be your friend thats it, they don't want to and no amount of moaning is going to change anything. As for not being invited to stuff maybe her face just didn't fit but hey that's life isn't it, we all don't get on with everyone!

perfectstorm · 10/02/2012 18:05

"I find it completely odd that no one picked up her post slagging the women off who she so desperately wants to be friends with to the extent where she would post what she has on here."

There's a big difference between someone venting about people who aren't here to read it, and attacking another member who is guaranteed it. You must realise that. It's not a complex distinction.

k8tykins · 10/02/2012 19:02

Two words "Mean Girls", leave before someone accuses you of "trying to make Fetch happen" Hope you've seen the movie, in any case, its always best to ditch the bitches :)

runningwilde · 10/02/2012 19:35

Hands up if you think that Madamec is

A) deluded
B) unpleasant
C) Hilarious with her posts about her fabbbbbb life

Or - all three

Madamec - it is quite amusing that you fail to see how you come across - you sound quite insecure really. But as you are so 'unboverred' why not just ignore us all and get back to your ahhhmazinggg life?!

Portofino · 10/02/2012 19:41

I think she sounds very smug - and it is most rude to bring it up again. What she said was very nasty.

Garliccheesechips · 10/02/2012 19:53

train wreck

cheekyseamonkey · 10/02/2012 20:13

I don't think she's rude. I think she was attacked for having an opinion and has defended herself. Accused of having had a crap life, so pointed out that weren't true. The op made comments about other people, including me, & no one thinks she was an insecure cow.

I find the irony of this thread to be that there are a coven of total bullies who are clearly far too thick to see that this is what they are. How tiresome.

Whatmeworry · 10/02/2012 20:34

I find the irony of this thread to be that there are a coven of total bullies who are clearly far too thick to see that this is what they are. How tiresome.

The real irony is that you are proof positive of why some people get excluded.

bibbitybobbityhat · 10/02/2012 20:34

"The op made comments about other people, including me"

  • oh, are you one of these in the group of 9 mums clique cheekyseamonkey? If so, what's your take on the situation?
Animation · 10/02/2012 20:42

I agree with you cheekyseamonkey. You are spot on!

Pornyissue · 10/02/2012 21:16

Is anyone else gutted they missed Madamec photos before they were taken down?

Shucks!

Jajas · 10/02/2012 21:32

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

runningwilde · 10/02/2012 23:10

Whatmeworry is spot on with her take on cheekyseamonkey.

Garliccheesechips · 11/02/2012 18:41

This whole thread is just awful

evansthebread · 11/02/2012 21:16

They're not very nice women, are they? Dump them! Be polite but make sure you are ALWAYS too busy to bother with them.

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