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to not give these women any more opportunities to exclude me?

324 replies

MomoandTeddington · 08/02/2012 10:04

I have namechanged.

At my 8 year old DD's school there is a group of mums, 9 of them. I have known most of them for several years since DD was at nursery with their DC. A couple of them live in the same road as me. The ones that I haven't known since nursery have been added to their group along the way, one knows one of the mums from tennis club and another lives next door to another one. I have always liked them all and got on well with them all, but I always feel they have excluded me a bit.

For example, they will arrange nights out and not invite me, yet invite me to others. Last time I went on a night out with them they were all talking about their previous night out to X restaurant and it suddenly dawned on me that I hadn't been invited on that one. I said "Oh, you didn't invite me on that one, girls" and one of them said "oooops probably shouldn't have mentioned that night out". They will invite me if they are having, say, a bodyshop party and want as many attendees as possible, but then other things they exclude me from.

I am probably the closest to one of them who lives a few doors down from me, we text each other occasionally and sometimes meet up for coffee, however for the past few months she has continually said about meeting up and then when I've suggested a day and time she has either been busy or forgotten or cancelled at very short notice. So I have now stopped suggesting meeting up with her, and am leaving the ball in her court.

The other thing they do is if one or two of them talk to me outside the school, they will be very vague with me and keep looking over my shoulder or behind them for other members of their group, and if they see one of them they will start smiling and waving at them and I feel they never listen to what I say, and sometimes are just waiting for me to go so that they can continue their conversation. One morning recently 3 were talking to me, they then all said they had to go, so I went off in my direction and they in theirs. A while later I went out in the car and saw them still talking in a group but they had moved round the corner to the other side of the school where they thought I wouldn't see when I'd gone. this morning two started talking to me and asking me about something that has happened to me recently, and I started talking too and next thing they were both looking over my head waving at someone wildly, totally ignoring what I said so I just said "Oh, bye then" and walked off.

I have decided I am not going to give them any more opportunities to exclude me. I am going to decline all invites out, and will say hello and be polite if I see them but it will be more of a "say hello and carry on walking with the buggy" than a hello and a chat. I am also not going to suggest any meet ups with any of them again. Another one of them and I went to an exercise class together once a week for a while but it dawned on me recently it was me making all the effort and so I stopped contacting her to see what would happen and she hasn't contacted me since. She always says she is busy yet has plenty of time for meet ups with the rest of them, but if I suggested meeting up in the day she would suggest a date in 2 or 3 months time because she's so busy, presumably hoping I would forget.

AIBU to think "stuff the lot of them"? I have other friends at the school, and other friend away from school btw. I don't think its me or anything I do/don't do, I think it's more that I'm not quite good enough for their clique.

OP posts:
EauDeLaPoisson · 09/02/2012 14:12

Rubbish. It makes you look as bad as her if not worse. FFS to me my kids are the most beautiful children on the planet- does that give someone carte blanche to look at pictures of them and say they are far from it?

FlappyBaps · 09/02/2012 14:19

Well said, Thistledew. There is no rule that everyone has to be included in everything or that everyone has to like everyone. And just because we like someone, they don't have to like us back. Being part of a group of friends is not childish: picking people up and dropping them is, as is misleading them as to how well we think of them.

I've been outside groups looking in and vice versa but I kind of think that life's too short to spend with people I don't really like, or who don't really like me. It's harsh being the one left out, but if you know that's what's happening don't beat yourself up about it - smile and wave, smile and wave...and move on. It doesn't mean they are all bitches, just as your not being included doesn't mean you're not good enough in some way.

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 14:19

Oh shut up, Poisson. I couldn't care less how it makes me look, just as I couldn't care less what you think of me. So long!

valiumredhead · 09/02/2012 14:34

Well if you boast about how fab your life is and how good looking your dh is, you have to expect that people like me will look! Grin

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 14:38

Grin valium!

EauDeLaPoisson · 09/02/2012 14:41

Looking and thinking something is one thing- saying 'wtf THAT?' is just nasty and childish. But dont let that get in the way of a bit of point scoring.

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 14:42

La La La

runningwilde · 09/02/2012 14:45

Hex - did madamec really put photos of her house and family up? Her posts on here must be amongst some of the most pathetic I have ever come across on MN - how sad and pathetic one must be to have to deperstely boast about their 'perfect' life. But on the plus side, it was hilarious to read!

runningwilde · 09/02/2012 14:46

desperately

Garliccheesechips · 09/02/2012 14:47

Ah come on, the husband wasn't the one bragging so we should leave him out of it.

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 14:49

Runningwilde they are on her profile, she has a few pics of her husband on there, I don't think there were any of the very big house in the country though :)

Her posts gave me a chuckle too!

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 14:50

Oh garliccheesechips, does it really matter? Is her husband likely to read this? No! Did Madame bring it on herself with her ridiculous posts? Yes! Is it human nature to want to see photos of something someone has boasted so much about? Yes. It really isn't a big deal is it? Madame has shown herself to be incredibly thick skinned, hence making a complete show of herself on here.

perfectstorm · 09/02/2012 14:51

So a thread about women being bitchy and forming in-groups and out-groups has deteriorated into... this?

How very meta.

MistyMountainHop · 09/02/2012 14:51

ugh they sound horrid

garlicfrother · 09/02/2012 14:54

YY, perfectstorm.

runningwilde · 09/02/2012 14:55

Spot on hex...

But look, I have a fabbbbouloussss life too, just ahhhhmazimgggg darhhlingggg!

LauraShigihara · 09/02/2012 15:02

Actually, Hex, that was really nasty. Cruel and uncalled-for.

OP YANBU. I was once part of a similar clique and, when it imploded horrendously I decided I had well and truly learned my lesson. Never again.

Keep well away Grin

valiumredhead · 09/02/2012 15:02

No, no! Look at MY fabulous house and GORGEOUS dh!

Garliccheesechips · 09/02/2012 15:12

My DP is fucking beautiful but my house is a bit meh.
Oh well. :o

valiumredhead · 09/02/2012 15:13

My house is meher that yours! Grin

HexagonalQueenOfTheSummer · 09/02/2012 15:37

Laura, it was cruel of Madame to post such nasty things to the OP! If we're talking about cruel!

perfectstorm · 09/02/2012 16:29

Please can we have an amnesty? Yes, madam whateverhername is said some truly horrible things which would shame an adolescent and were quite rightly deleted. But if you think you are what leaves your own mouth and not someone else's, a lot of people have not covered themselves in glory in this thread. How about nobody posts anything that they'd not confidently say to someone's face? Because perhaps it's just me, but I think this thread is proving the Internet Dickwad Theory nicely.

snapsnap · 09/02/2012 16:40

OP YANBU Playground politics are upsetting at 7 but I wouldn't put up with them in my 30's

Re posters photos and profiles; I think its quite funny when posters go on about their fabulous lives and post pics of their houses etc. It makes you wonder why???

Whatmeworry · 09/02/2012 16:43

MadameC sowed the wind-up and reaped the whirlwind. Her lookout.

Re posters photos and profiles; I think its quite funny when posters go on about their fabulous lives and post pics of their houses etc. It makes you wonder why???

Or who....picking up a mansion and a hunk photo ain't hard :)

valiumredhead · 09/02/2012 16:43

I am slightly confused as to why the support for someone who posted that they didn't care what anyone said to them because she would let nothing bother her, and was far from nice to the OP, and that's putting it mildly! Confused

And I never post ANYTHING that I would have trouble saying to someone's face :)

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