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AIBU?

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..to have felt sick when i saw a twat in waitrose walking around with a dead flattened fox on his head

95 replies

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 18:47

i am not usually majorly bothered about someone wearing fur. i don't like it nor would i wear it myself but my take on it is each to their own. if i were in ie norway where it is bloody freezing and snows all the time in the winter somehow seeing someone wearing fur there seems different to wandering around oxford street on a sunny winters day but, it's isn't my business HOWEVER, walking around waitrose this morning i was shocked and offended tbh to see a man wearing a full fox on his head (tail down the back, arms and legs dangling down each side and to top it off, a flattened head/face at the front worn as a trophy). wtf? put me off my fishfingers. he looked a right twat

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blackoutthesun · 06/02/2012 18:48

YABU

eaglewings · 06/02/2012 18:54

YANBU
He should wear it in his own back yard

Blu · 06/02/2012 18:54

It's called Twatrose for a reason, you know!

vjg13 · 06/02/2012 18:56

Are you a vegan otherwise IMHO complaining about this is a bit hypocritical.

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 18:58

i'm not a vegan. wearing a fur hat is one thing but having it's tail dangling down the back and its arms and legs flapping around the veg section is bloody horrible,not to mention the head balanced nicely at the front, just to add a touch of class. i fail to see finding this style of hat offensive in comparison to eating meat the same thing. do you have a fur coat? seems your comment is the sort of comment straight out of the mouth of someone who wears fur :)

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SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 06/02/2012 19:01

Would you have preferred it if it had been alive Paisley ? Grin

minimisschief · 06/02/2012 19:01

yabu unless you are vegan. No different than someone buying meat. The animal was killed for consumption that was killed to keep the guys head warm There is no difference.

Also no matter how you dress it up animals bred for food live in crappy artificial conditions and have their lives cut short. And the humane killing in programs never looks all that humane

diabolo · 06/02/2012 19:03

Eating meat is totally different to killing an animal purely to use its fur!

Look at Native American Indians - they used every part of a bison/buffalo, (meat, fur, bones, fat, sinew), not a single part of the animal ever went to waste,

How many of you want to eat a fox? Or a mink?

I have no issue with using the skin of an animal that would be killed for food (leather, sheepskin), but to breed, raise an animal and kill it so you can look rich, is not my scene.

minimisschief · 06/02/2012 19:03

again what difference does it make that it has arms and legs. It is still an animal killed to make a coat. It islike seeing a dead fish with a head and a slice of fish and thinking one is better than the other.

headfairy · 06/02/2012 19:03

YABU for objecting on animal welfare reasons (though I do believe meat is more necessary for us than fur, we could easily live without fur and the suffering animals are put through to get the furs off them)

YANBU for thinking he looked a twat. Who on earth walks around with what looks like roadkill on their heads? I blame Lady Gaga and her meat dress Wink

squeakytoy · 06/02/2012 19:03

Is it perhaps the "roadkill" look.. must be the new fashion maybe...

I would be on the lookout for a few pigeons, make a coat out of few of them and you could have a whole new craze going on...

MilitaryWag · 06/02/2012 19:05

People like that dont care. It would have made me annoyed to so IMO YANBU.
minimisschief I doubt very much it was killed to keep someone's head warm. Use your imagination Hmm

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 19:05

sarah - i would actually, i bloody love foxes :D

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SuePurblybilt · 06/02/2012 19:06

minimisschief is undoubtedly right. But from your description, I reckon it's roadkill. And that type of person is only dying for you to challenge them. Don't give him the satisfaction, if you see him again, stick out a foot and trip him up instead Grin Wink.

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 19:06

diab - i agree totally

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minimisschief · 06/02/2012 19:06

How is it different doesnt matter how much of the animal you are using. You are still killing it. Somehow its better if you use every part of the animal? really?

headfairy · 06/02/2012 19:09

minimisschief I do think fur is different from meat, one is for vanity (nowadays, disregarding centuries ago when it was the warmest thing to wear) the other is for survival (whilst I agree vegetarianism can be very healthy, there will always be some essential vitamins and minerals you can't get from a veggie diet alone)

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 06/02/2012 19:09

Me too Paisley: we have a regular visitor in our garden. Not too sure I'd want to see one trotting round Waitrose though.

Totally with you on this one!

PercyFilth · 06/02/2012 19:09

Let me guess. He told someone he was going to Waitrose, and they said, "Where the fucks that" Wear the fox hat

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 19:10

sue - he looked really odd, had a tie and suit on. anyone that wears a hat like that is imo somone that would stand up and fight their corner, noway was i going to say anything, and as i said in my first post, i don't think it has anything to do with me anyway, i just said that i found it offensive

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ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 06/02/2012 19:11

diabolo - I don't see the logic in your argument. Your post suggests you eat meat. Do you ensure you use every last bit of animal carcass? Chicken beaks? Cows' intestines? No?
What gives you the right to decide one use of animal carcass is "better" than others? Yes we can use fur substitute - if we want to. We can also use meat substitute - if we want to. If I were to eat fox meat, would it make my fox fur coat ok? (I don't own one as it happens!)
IMO very few people can claim the moral high ground when it comes to meat and animal rights. I certainly don't.

As for the fox-head twat...well I'm sure he looked a nobber anyway, but let him get on with it!

ArielNonBio · 06/02/2012 19:11

Just to be clear, the eating of meat does not equate to the wearing of endangered species, which is the argument that fur wearers generally trot out.

Not that a fox is an endangered species. He sounds like a bit of an attention seeker and yes, a twat.

SarahDoctorIndyHouse · 06/02/2012 19:11

Love that joke Percy but you have to admit it works better spoken aloud than written down!

headfairy · 06/02/2012 19:13

roadkill hat and a suit? He's a look. I hope you took a wide berth.

cheekyseamonkey · 06/02/2012 19:13

You were in Waitrose, therefore you were being unreasonable.

If you'd been in Asda, you could quite rightly be scared.