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..to have felt sick when i saw a twat in waitrose walking around with a dead flattened fox on his head

95 replies

paisleyII · 06/02/2012 18:47

i am not usually majorly bothered about someone wearing fur. i don't like it nor would i wear it myself but my take on it is each to their own. if i were in ie norway where it is bloody freezing and snows all the time in the winter somehow seeing someone wearing fur there seems different to wandering around oxford street on a sunny winters day but, it's isn't my business HOWEVER, walking around waitrose this morning i was shocked and offended tbh to see a man wearing a full fox on his head (tail down the back, arms and legs dangling down each side and to top it off, a flattened head/face at the front worn as a trophy). wtf? put me off my fishfingers. he looked a right twat

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animula · 07/02/2012 20:25

Surely the issue here is the wearing of a fox on your head to go shopping in. The rights and wrongs of fur is, agreed, important but surely not the most striking thing in this post???

It is so the polar opposite of pyjamas to go shopping in that the two would implode on contact. (Something to ponder, should the two sartorial style statements come into contact whilst reaching for an item.)

Intrigued to discover that another poster has spotted this hat in Paddington and that you can buy them on-line (for only about 1 and a half hundred pounds). I am now going to be scanning every crowd for these hats.

5Foot5 · 07/02/2012 20:34

"My granny had a stole. I used to love stroking it."

Oh I saw one recently at a vintage clothes fair and actually thought it quite beautiful and very, very soft. They only wanted £15 for it so I did think about it - not to wear I hasten to add just to drape in an interesting fashion over the back of the sofa. However, DD was horrified and said I couldn't possibly because some of her friends are vegetarian!

Anyway, about that hat. I don't see that it is any worse than a hat made out of fur that didn't still resemble the creature it once was. Both wrong if you disagree with wearing fur, so why does one offend you more than the other would? Its a bit like eating meat but only wanting it all chopped up in little plastic boxes and not still animal shaped so that you can tell it came from an animal. No doubt the man did look a bit of a twat but I expect he likes it and I can't understand how it made you feel sick (Unless it was fresh roadkill and oozing down his back or something)

animula · 07/02/2012 20:40

Surely it is worse, though, because it is completely and utterly ridiculous?

Seriously. I know taxidermy is cool and fur is creeping back in a bit.

But the two combined? On your head?

Please.

What next? Two mounted ferrets atop a stalker?

It's too far, I tell you. Too far.

LynetteScavo · 07/02/2012 22:02

My great aunt had a bear skin coat.

It was very heavy, and lived for sometime in the wardrobe in our spare bedroom,after her death.

Apparently it was OK, because she had got it from a second hand shop.

Poor old bear.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss · 07/02/2012 22:09

Fur hats are lovely, and I'd really like one.
The fox with the face and legs is just bad taste!

mummymeister · 07/02/2012 23:49

Post this on the chicken keepers message board and see what response you get! Sorry but i absolutely despise he who cannot be named and if hwcbn is dead on a head then thats great. we always cheer when we see one dead by the side of the road as it is one less to slaughter my lovely girls (hens!). when you have cleared up the bodies of 42 hens (all with names) in one afternoon you too will feel the same OP.

PostBellumBugsy · 08/02/2012 09:00

Paisley you said in your original post you were "shocked and offended" - not that you thought it was OTT.

It's funny the odd relationship the Brits have with foxes. We are horrified when the sneak into someone's house & maul their babies & yet all over the place crazy folk put food out for them, right outside their back doorstep. Foxes are predators & survivors - you don't ever find one that has starved to death, that is for sure.
If some odd person, with very bizarre fashion sense wants to wear a dead one as a hat, whilst I would question his taste, it certainly wouldn't shock or offend me - particularly if I was wearing animal hides on my feet, possibly as gloves on my hands & for a handbag!

paisleyII · 08/02/2012 17:04

post - your post is boring, heard it millions of times before, don't agree with your view although i see why you think that. i love foxes, i think they are beautiful, not just in the way they look but in their behaviour towards each other. no, i too get upset when they kill chickens for no reason, mother nature for you there. as for foxes 'going into someones home and mauling childrend'. please.......so rare that that happens. PEOPLE GET MAULED BY BLOODY DOGS roaming the streets far more frequently. i disagree with your very common view

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PostBellumBugsy · 08/02/2012 17:18

LOL! You were the one who asked if you were being unreasonable. Didn't you want any responses - or only really exciting ones? No answer required!!!!

VivaLeBeaver · 08/02/2012 17:37

Yabu for not having taken a photo of him on your phone. Grin

paisleyII · 08/02/2012 18:12

post - i don't care if people have opinions different to mine, i was just disagreeing. i am aware that in this big wide world people have different views. i didn't say you were wrong, i just said that i disagree! actually, it is something (re the fox and children mauling) that really bugs me, tis' all

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diabolo · 08/02/2012 18:21

Foxes, like wolves are generally given a bad press that they don't deserve.

Urban foxes can cause problems with rubbish, humans aren't the most careful of creatures at disposing of their waste, the fox is clever enough to take advantage. Good on him.

If you keep chickens, it is a fact of life that foxes will try to kill them - it's called "the food chain". Make sure they are secure and that your coop is fox-proof.

Of course, the well publicised case of the fox mauling a child is shocking, but as paisley says, dogs attack people every day without the same hysteria being applied to every dog in the country.

I am a big opponent of fox hunting, but living in the wilds of East Anglia, I am aware that there are a lot more Country foxes around than there used to be and this is causing problems for farmers nearby. But there has to be a better way of controlling their numbers than hunting dogs tearing them apart while people sit on a horse laughing while they watch.

Scheherezade · 08/02/2012 18:26

Wearing fur is the exact same as leather. No doubt the posters complaining about it own,leather boots, handbags,

Scheherezade · 08/02/2012 18:27

Wallets and belts etc.....

diabolo · 08/02/2012 18:30

Sche - it is not the same.

I wear the skin of animals that are killed for food. Better than killing the cow and throwing the rest of it in the bin imo, that is a waste.

I do not wear the skin of an animal that is raised simply to be skinned so I can look / pretend / act rich (or look like a wanker).

Scheherezade · 08/02/2012 19:08

So if the fur hat/coat came from an animal that had been eaten, you wouldn't have a problem with that? I wonder how much research you do into the origins of leather & fur items....?

Before lambasting someone for wearing fur, do you studiously investigate where that fur has come from?

What about sheepskin linings and rugs?

There ARE breeds of cows raised purely for their skin.

SunRaysthruClouds · 08/02/2012 19:14

Are you sure it was dead paisley? He might have just been taking it for a walk and it got tired, and his head was the only place he could put it when he was in Waitrose.

Hoolet · 08/02/2012 19:18

diabolo - Foxes aren't raised for their pelts. Mainly they're just shot as vermin and then someone makes use of their pelts.

SuePurblybilt · 08/02/2012 19:19

That is true. When I lived in Oxford there was a man who used to carry a cat on his shoulders (and sometimes a bird, different days). He also had a photo album in his pocket of the cat's birthday parties (hats, cakes and all). The bird never had a party Sad.
Maybe it was a pet? A sleepy pet.

paisleyII · 08/02/2012 19:34

it was dead to the world. i didn't analyse as to why he was wearing it or perhaps how he came to own it. i just thought he looked a dick in it plus tbh i am fond of foxes and found the sight somewhat upsetting. i don't like the word vermin used to describe foxes, imo that is used by people who don't like them, derogatory term. i am sure if i were a farmer or a chicken owner i too would hate the blighters but i am neither, i just see their beauty outward and inward. i have spent a fair bit of time with one particular fox, i literally loved the bloody thing. i have also spent alot of time watching them interact naturally, like watching the love between two swans, very heart warming. i know they can be a pain ie their poo and rubbish distribution BUT i will gladly clear their shite AND pick up their rubbish strewn on the pavement on bin collecting day as i see them as a creature of mother nature, so are we :)

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