..to have felt sick when i saw a twat in waitrose walking around with a dead flattened fox on his head

[paisleyII]

i am not usually majorly bothered about someone wearing fur. i don't like it nor would i wear it myself but my take on it is each to their own. if i were in ie norway where it is bloody freezing and snows all the time in the winter somehow seeing someone wearing fur there seems different to wandering around oxford street on a sunny winters day but, it's isn't my business HOWEVER, walking around waitrose this morning i was shocked and offended tbh to see a man wearing a full fox on his head (tail down the back, arms and legs dangling down each side and to top it off, a flattened head/face at the front worn as a trophy). wtf? put me off my fishfingers. he looked a right twat

min - i don't like fur as i have already said but each to their own, especially in a very cold place such as alaska. what i found particularly stinky about this hat was the trophy element about it with the head on the front. he wanted to draw attention to it. are we supposed to be impressed with it? he looked ridiculous

Paisley, whatever you do do not go to a proper old fashioned butcher for your meat. Where there might be a rabbit or hare hung up, with it's fur on, and head, and little tail...

Personally, I hope this fox-wearing fashoin takes off. The objections to fur were about the near extinction of wild rare animals, trappingin a cruel way and / or farming creatures in inhumane conditions simply for pelts. Foxes are complete vermin in London and would do far more good keeping people warm than destroying gardens, tipping rubbish everywhere, genberating foul shit and keeping people awake for hours with their screeching and yowling.

i knew i would get comments from some here because i said i was in waitrose, actually i threw that in deliberately. i should have also said 'whilst reading the DM in the cafe' :)

never mind taking a wide berth headfairy

OP, didn't you take a picture

I've seen that man! At Paddington station just before Christmas. At least I think it was him. How many people have a hat made out of an entire dead fox, I wonder? He looked a bit of a 'knit your own lentil' type.

YANBU to feel sick, no matter whether you're a vegan or whatever moral considerations. Have any of the people saying YABU seen one of these poor beasts?

When I was little there was a vair posh lady at our church who on special occasions would wear a fox stole. Basically a whole empty fox round her neck with the tail down one side and the flat head (no skull) with little beady glass eyes down the other. And paws. Freaked me out! Urghhh - that was an unwelcome blast from the past.

blue - balls! i love foxes, beautiful animals. have you watched them closely? ever had a relationship with one? i have. clever critters who are mostly misunderstood. dog shit is far worse and all over the bloody place. as for going through bin bags, put them in a tough rubbish bin........

SarahDoctorIndyHouse You're right! but I bet it does have something to do with the old joke.

My granny had a stole. I used to love stroking it.

I agree he would have looked a twat, like this but then some people go to extraordinary lengths to look a twat. Their choice. Maybe Twatrose could introduce special twat-free shopping hours with a dress code?

tas - nah, different man, this one was in a suit, tie, had a briefcase.

butwhy I'm not that bothered you don't see the logic in my argument. That's what I think and I'm comfortable with how I live my life and my opinion on this matter won't change.

Fwiw I only eat top quality, free range meat and pay a lot of money for knowing that an animal has at least had a decent life. If that makes me some kind of hypocrite, I really don't care.

meh, on one hand I think poor little foxy so YANBU but then, if like me, you eat meat and wear leather then the hypocritical side of me screaming out louder YABU.

Diabolo - So why's it ok to give an animal a decent life in order to harvest its meat, but not its fur? (I'm aware fur is not always harvested respectfully, but neither is a sizeable proportion of meat.)
Sorry you seemed think I was attacking you, but the consumption of animal parts is something I think we all need to be a bit more honest with ourselves about.

Did it look like the one in my link - in which case they are becoming more popular (for some reason...) or did it look like home-skinned roadkill?

blu - great picture although he's wasn't quite the same, but close, real close. not an everyday kind of hat, you wear that and some people will look at you. one of my closest friends has a fox coat. none of my business, she knows i love foxes, i wouldn't comment on her coat as it is none of my business, i'm not going to shove my views down her throat - we are different people and have different opinions. i have had to warn her off going into town though wearing it as she is likely to get some comments. i was right too, she went to town recently wearing it and had lots of comments of which none were nice. i know someone who got hit wearing one (because of the coat).

Maybe he had been involved in a freak RTA and had yet to have his head removed from the fox's arse!

Maybe he is a game keeper who's land is overrun with them, and he shot it, because they can no longer be hunted with dogs, and decided to turn it into a hat so it's pelt didn't go to waste!

Who said that, ladyintheradiator?

Are people really suggesting that eating eggs or honey is in the same league as wearing a dead fox on your head?

No, don't think anyone is suggesting that, not that I have read so far anyway? Not sure where you picked that up from.

You should borrow some fox hounds and a horse and charge into Waitrose shouting 'View Hallooooooo' or whatever it is they shout
then say

'oh sorry sir we all smelt a fox...............as you were you stupid twat'

Butwhy - because nobody ever died due to not owning a sable coat, or a fox fur hat.

I would not kill an animal out of pure vanity. I find that much more shameful than killing one to eat. For some reason my conscience has no problem with something being killed if you are going to eat it.

I have a major problem with the pillock at DS's school who turns up every winter in a mink coat and tells everyone it cost £3K.

I am truly sorry if that makes me a hypocrite to the vegans / vegetarians on this site.

Fox? minging. Should have run to a mink or ermine rather than vermin.

There is a company that frequents the county show circuit, who sell clothes hats and bags trimmed in fox fur. It has all been killed by game keepers. At least they are being recycled, and not just being thrown in a ditch to rot. I think it's a good idea. I have a vintage rabbit fur coat. Those rabbits were more than likely eaten. The fur was a by product. that fox could have been road kill.

diabolo - that's a problem with twattish people, not the issue! :-)
I just think the deed is what matters rather than the intention. If you're going to kill an animal for its fur it doesn't really matter if it's cos you want to be a pompous pillock or need it to keep warm.
Anyway - wasn't seeking an argument, just interesting in other peoples' reasoning as it's an issue that means a lot to me!