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Fricking d fricking h and my THIRD fricking jumper ruined. AIBU to express mild irritation?

95 replies

Slambang · 28/01/2012 11:27

I mean, how bloody difficult is it for a highly intelligent human being to learn that cashmere/ wool/ silk jumpers do not go in a hot wash and a tumble dry?

The first (a beautiful red pure silk jumper my parents bought me from China) - the colour is now in garish streaks. Looks like a tie dye.
I kept my cool. Explained it was ruined and what not to put in a hot wash.

The second - a pink stripey wool job. Now suitably sized for a larger doll. I kept my cool. Explained AGAIN what doesn't do well in a tumble dry.

Today my favourite turqoise cashmere jumper. Shrunk to a quarter of the size and holey.

Today I raised my voice and threw said jumper on the floor.

Dh thinks I am being totally unreasonable as he was 'only trying to help'. He has walked out in a huffy strop.

To add context dh has been made redundant. We are both in a panic about money. I trying and sometimes failing to be sympathetic rock. But I feel this is Not An Excuse. Am I right?

OP posts:
ABatInBunkFive · 28/01/2012 14:35

troisgarcons - Really ahahahaha crazy, i'll give you that one then. Wink

ABatInBunkFive · 28/01/2012 14:38

To be fair men do need to be trained equally as much as women do, like i said i'm quite sure i wasn't born with washing instructions in my head, i know i'm not i've ruined more of my own things washing them wrong than DH ever has. Grin

OTTMummA · 28/01/2012 14:38

3 times? 3 times he has made a mistake, yanbu OP, really, he is a grown adult, he should be able to wash clothes properly.
I have this with DH, well, 'had' this problem, he is an only and when we moved in he couldn't do a dam thing, nothing, no cooking, no cleaning, no washing, zip!

If a woman can read instructions on a lable, read the washing powder/tablets box etc and work out the right function to use on a washing machine, why can a man not do that?
We all make mistakes when we learn something new, but seriously, fucking up the washing 3 times when he has fuck all else to do? that is unreasonable.

Same with cooking, just because you have a penis doesn't mean the recipe will not work for you, we all have to start somewhere.

yellowraincoat · 28/01/2012 14:39

troisgarcons, honestly, I think you're seeing what you want to see. I've seen loads of women be slated on here for doing daffy things like filling the tank up with the wrong fuel or destroying something.

ChitChatInChaos · 28/01/2012 14:43

Well I'm a SAHM, so I tend to do most of the housework. Occasionally my DH will do some washing, but not often enough to automatically know what wash cycle EVERYTHING goes on. I also take a lot of the tags off my delicate items so as to not be scratched, therefore no tag to be read. Let alone the numerous bloody handwash items which I have deemed either old enough/cheap enough/hardy enough to go in a gentle washing cycle, which are not to be confused with the handwash items which are ONLY to be hand washed. Oh and the dry clean only items which I will either wash on gentle cycle, the ones which can be hand washed, and the ones which I will ONLY dry clean, etc.

Yeah..... really simple. Hmm

All he has are shirts, which can be hot washed, underwear and casual clothes which can go in a normal cycle, and jumpers that go in the wool wash, or suits and ties which go to the dry cleaners.

So all of you who are ranting about pathetic women who molly coddle their DHs can just piss right off.

cartblanche · 28/01/2012 15:05

I am usually the guilty party when it comes to shrinking my DP's jumpers. I usually get complacent because a lot of the 100% lambswool merino jumpers from M&S are pretty shrink-proof NOT SO the John Lewis ones.

On the bright side, I did manage to make some BRILLIANT Felt Xmas decorations from his lovely green merino jumper so all was not lost! If you've still got your shrunken turquoise jumper OP please feel free to PM me and send it my way - I can always find a use for a shrunken jumper! Since my new-found interest in felting my DP NEVER lets me near his jumpers - something says he doesn't trust me Smile

Fairenuff · 28/01/2012 18:07

ChitChat when you first started doing laundry did you automatically know what wash cycle EVERYTHING goes on or did you gradually learn about by either reading the labels or asking?

I don't think anyone expects a man to 'just know' this stuff, I think they are saying that he's just as capable of learning as a woman Do you not agree?

ChitChatInChaos · 28/01/2012 19:22

Of course I gradually learned. And yes, when men do it REGULARLY, they also gradually learn. But the fact is, chores are usually divided up in a house, so if the man doesn't do the washing REGULARLY, it takes a much longer time to sort the washing out because 1) clothes change so there are frequenty new care labels and 2) if you only do that particular chore occasionally you don't remember it all.

I've helped my mum with her washing, and it took AGES to check all of the care labels. I much preferred to let her quickly sort it out and then I would go and do the wash.

I know by sight which clothes require extra special care. DH doesn't.

Also, there is NO WAY DH can work out when I don't follow the care label and when I do. I certainly am not willing to spend the amount on dry cleaning costs in dry cleaning EVERYTHING that says Dry Clean only. And my handwashing pile would be absolutely enormous if I followed the care labels. The REASON why care labels say dry clean only or hand wash only is because they can't be bothered testing the fabric to be sure it will cope with ALL machine washing. I make a judgment, every now and then I get it wrong and washing it will shrink it. Meh, my fault. Usually though my judgment would be correct (and a lot of money saved in dry cleaning bills and a lot of my time saved by not handwashing everything). But I would be peeved if DH made that judgment call for MY clothes and got it wrong.

alemci · 28/01/2012 19:31

I don't blame you. My dh has done this before with things.

Have a separate laundry bag for delicates and stuff you don't want him to touch and tell him.

Hopefully there will be no more problems.

preciousmuch · 28/01/2012 19:31

hey yanbvu! I don't understand it either. My dh is lovely but just seems to have a mental block when it comes to my clothes. After several beautiful items were ruined we came to an agreement that I would launder my own clothes. I then became ill & dh took over all the household chores. Cue lots of ruined clothes again! This time I couldn't be angry as times were hard and I learned to choose my battles. I have recently lost a lot of weight and had my colours done as a little pick-me-up... I am now in the process of rebuilding my wardrobe and am thinking of commanding my own laundry basket to avoid the demise of more beautiful things! I just don't have the money to keep replacing them and I don't have the strength to argue about it.

squeakytoy · 28/01/2012 19:37

I have fucked up every nice wool jumper that I have ever owned, because I am crap at remembering to separate stuff that cant be hot washed or tumble dried.

I have shrunk most of DH's work clothes by doing the same over the years..

He accepts that I am absolutely useless in that department though. Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 28/01/2012 19:48

If someone told me they had put diesel in a petrol car three times I would think they were a moron. My DH tumble dried my fancy bra, was told how much it cost and replaced it. Didn't happen again. I have never fucked up his dress shirts. If I did I would replace. And neither of us is helping the other. FFS it's household washing.

Deflatedballoonbelly · 28/01/2012 19:51

for typing 'fricking' three times. YABU.

Lonnie · 28/01/2012 20:02

If a woman posted the following:

I tried to use the DHs car this morning and it was out of gas so I filled it up with diesel but its a petrol car and my DH is furious and shouted at me because it will cost xx hundreds again to clean the engine. Its not the first time I;ve done it.

You lot would be right up there with the 'poor you's' and closely followed by the leave him, cut his cock off, ridiculous questions about whether this was the first time he'd ever raised his voice, was he always so controlling.

Actually I would have responded (just as I did to dh's friend when he did so)

Well that was blinking stupid.

OP take the jumpers back change them for 2. I do recommend using a separate basket for delicates but as much for your own ease as dh's

Thumbwitch · 29/01/2012 04:14

"If someone told me they had put diesel in a petrol car three times I would think they were a moron."
Yep.

My mum was not the best at laundry. Once she had a tumble drier and discovered pre-wash, that is. BEfore that she used to check the labels; AFTER that everything was done on wash 5 (easy care at 40deg for people who don't remember), except linens and towels which were done on boil wash and underwear which was done on wash 4 (50deg). I'm not sure she knew what the wool and delicates washes were for; but since they didn't allow a prewash, she didn't use them.
Very quickly I learnt to do my own washing after having jumpers shrunk and clothes damaged - I was self-sufficient in the laundry by the age of 12.

My DH, to use his own phrase, doesn't give a rat's arse about clothes. And because he doesnt, he doesn't care if they get spoilt in the wash. And that's why I don't let him near the laundry, not because he's not capable, he just doesn't care. And I do.

Spinkle · 29/01/2012 07:16

I'm convinced DH is purposely fecking useless at stuff I ask him to do so he knows I won't ask again.

It's taken me 10 years to train him to put wet towels on a towel rail. Not the floor. Or bizarrely the corner of a door.

He 'forgets', apparently

Ask him who won the 1973 FA Cup Final, he 'remembers'

Amazing.....

RustyBear · 29/01/2012 07:34

Sunderland

Not that amazing, really, 1973 was one of the biggest 'shock' Cup Finals ever....

SilentBoob · 29/01/2012 07:43

Grin Rusty.

TheBigJessie · 29/01/2012 10:44

When I first started doing my own washing, I printed out a chart of laundry-care symbols. I checked the label of everything I washed, and consulted my chart every time I saw a symbol I didn't know. However, I never remove laundry care labels and others do, so, it might not work so well for other people.

CardyMow · 29/01/2012 11:41

Sorry, but I would take exception at ANY person who didn't learn from their FIRST laundry mistake. When I started washing my own clothes at 16yo, I made ONE fuck-up. Of putting a chenille jumper in a washer-dryer and not taking it out before it went through the drying cycle. Never again. I am now 30yo and have never done anything so twattish since. I educated myself on what the care labels meant.

It was one of the issues that ended up driving a wedge between me and my ex-P. Because he was seemingly incapable of taking in ANY information to do with laundry. Yet could learn new skills at work after being told just once. It wasn't important enough for him to bother with, because he had me to do it. Angry.

It got to the point where not only did he refuse to DO any washing 'because he was scared of doing it wrong and ruining something', but he wouldn't even pick his clothes up from where he dropped them - even if that was somewhere dangerous like the top of the stairs when we have dc. I picked up after him for ages - then I sat him down, had a talk with him, and he said he would improve. I told him that I would no longer be picking up his clothes.

Eventually, I had to cave, as there was a pile over 2 feet high AT THE TOP OF THE STAIRS. And another 2-foot high pile at the end of the bed, which was causing me to trip over EVERY NIGHT while holding baby DS3. So I would put them on his side of the bed. AND he started shouting at me when I refused to wash anything that wasn't in the laundry basket, and he had no clean clothes. Which was laughable,as even my (at the time) 7yo DS2 WITH SN could manage to put his clothes in the basket, and understand that they wouldn't get washed if they weren't there!

We ended up splitting up 7 months ago. I just couldn't take it any more.

There's NO WAY I am going to run around after another adult who PRETENDS to be incapable wrt clothes washing. He is managing perfectly fine with it now he lives away from me. So he could manage it perfectly fine when he WAS with me.

Very controlling behaviour, IMO. Not bothering to make the effort to educate yourself on how to do a job PROPERLY. I'll bet if he had to take a job where he had to learn new skills, he wouldn't just say that he can't do it. While yes, buying replacements is all very sweet - he KNOWS you don't have the money to spare, so is putting the onus on YOU to decide to take them back for a refund (to be the RESPONSIBLE ONE). He is abdicating himself from being a responsible adult in your relationship. I would NOT put up with that. He SHOULD have discussed with you whether you wanted a replacement, what replacement you wanted, and whether you could currently afford a replacement.

By going out and making a 'grand gesture' of buying you 4 new jumpers - he is trying to shut you up. Because if you complain about it, he then feels he has the 'right' to be annoyed, because you are 'throwing his good deed back at him'. Regardless of the fact that you are unhappy because 1) He ruined your original jumper through carelessness and can't be bothered to educate himself on how things should be washed (not his job?) 2) He made a 'grand gesture' of buying you 4 replacements, when he KNOWS you are short of money (being irresponsible), and 3) Not discussing it with you first.

Trois - I don't think that is being 'emasculating' at all. Having the expectation that your partner sees housework as being just as worthy of educating himself about as the things he has to do at work is NOT emasculating. Unless you see housework as somehow lesser to paid employment? Which is just perpetuating the myth that washing and cleaning is just 'womens work'. I wouldn't stand for that from my DS's, much less someone who is meant to be my partner.I would actually see it as MUCH more 'manly' for a man to teach himself about care labels, understand them, pay attention to them, to apologise for any mistakes he may make, and to DISCUSS replacements rather than just assuming that he knows best for me.

So, he's lost his job. In my world, that would mean that until he found a new job, he would be expected to do his FAIR SHARE of housework, and to do it PROPERLY. Without moaning. Without fuck-ups. And if he DID make a fuck-up, he should apologise without sulking/grumpiness/claiming he somehow can't do it/ making grand gestures of replacement items that he KNOWS we don't have money for. AND he should be financially responsible. Anything less would be a problem for me.

I don't have high standards - just expect that I am not treated badly, as I am worth more than that. I now expect to be treated in the same way as I treat a man. Never any less. I'd rather be single as I am now than put up with any more relationships where I was treated like a skivvy and expected to do all the 'womens work'. Because it ISN'T women's work. It is HOUSEHOLD work, and all adults in the house are capable of doing their fair share.

Thumbwitch · 29/01/2012 12:02

Good rant post, Huntycat :)

McHappyPants2012 · 29/01/2012 12:19

i don't know about care label Angry

somehow never manage to ruin clothes yet

CardyMow · 29/01/2012 12:24

Well, then you have obviously made the effort to look sensibly at the fabrics that clothing is made from, and make your own judgement on whether to blithely stuff it in a 60 degree wash or not. My post wasn't aimed at those who take enough care over housework NOT to ruin things - more aimed at thiose who don't BOTHER to make an effort not to ruin things, because it's 'not their job'. Or they hope that by doing the job badly, they won't be expected to do it again in the future, thus abdicating responsibility for the job, and leaving it to someone else. Which IS controlling. If you haven't managed to ruin anything, then you ARE taking the care not to - which means that my post wouldn't be aimed at you!

doinmummy · 29/01/2012 12:39

If it needs hand /special care washing it doesn't get bought!
I do agree that if people can operate computers/machinery at work/drive cars then doing a bit of washing should be a doddle and the excuse that they cant do/forget just doesn't wash.

OhdearNigel · 29/01/2012 12:41

"do not wash my clothes"

Repeat until he gets the message