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11 YO DD1 told not to bring Twilight book into school again because it's 'unchristian'

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AgentZigzag · 23/01/2012 10:24

DD1s teacher from last year asked her what she was reading at playtime on Friday, DD1 told her it was 'New Moon' which we'd bought her for her birthday in December.

The teacher hurried off and had quiet words with the teacher taking her class this year, they both came back and said she wasn't in trouble, but they didn't want her to bring the book in again to school because it's at odds with the christian values of the school (it's C of E).

The teacher said she'd read the first Twilight book and it's fine if her mum and dad think it's OK for her to read it, but she didn't think it was for little girls and they'd 'get into trouble if anyone saw her reading it' (DD thought the trouble would be from the vicar, although I find this hard to believe).

There are a few things I feel a bit uncomfortable about -

-this teacher had asked DD what she was reading a few times when DD took in the first Twilight book in, and just smiled and said nothing.

-they're actively encouraged to read Harry Potter books, and if you're banning Twilight because it's 'unchristian' then shouldn't that go for HP as well, and anything else with fantasy characters in? So no more fairies or Father Christmas then.

-DD was reading it at playtime, so nothing to do with lessons. Are they expecting her to spread dissent on what the Evil books are about or something?

-I feel they're somehow insinuating we're being unchristian letting her read them, although I couldn't care less about them judging me on my religious views, it annoys me because it seems a bit of a random rule when she's gone all the way through the school and no other judgments on our christian values have been mentioned.

I'm pretty much hands off when it comes to school, letting them get on with their job and do what they ask of me re homework etc. So I'm not planning on storming down there to confront them or anything, but this has really got on my wick and I'm posting to try and sort out what I think about it really.

Am I being unreasonable?

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sieglinde · 28/01/2012 10:24

Ok, I may have been misread here. I'm not a believer in Sheldrake's paranormal antics. But I think he might have a point in suggesting that science also has quite a strictly controlled and controlling agenda. I accept though that he might not be best placed to demonstrate sane critique of that agenda Grin Perhaps this might relate to the overall notion that even people who do not exactly share one's beliefs might nonetheless seem credible in other ways?

notfluffyatall · 28/01/2012 11:00

Cherrypicking again? Nope, not for me.

notfluffyatall · 28/01/2012 11:37

To add: I would have more respect for you if you just admitted you had been googling furiously trying to find a credible scientist who offered a real explanation for his belief and came across Sheldrake. To say, effectively, ok most of what he says is utter tripe but he's got the right idea, is just bullshit.

sieglinde · 28/01/2012 16:06

Have a nice day, notfluffy. :) Evidently fine discriminations are beyond you. That makes for a dull discussion, for me at any rate.

notfluffyatall · 28/01/2012 17:07

It's nothing to do with 'fine discrimination', please don't patronise me. The man is a buffoon, you held him up as an example of an acclaimed scientist with credible ideas 'outside of the box'.

You did withdraw that somewhat but still won't accept that Sheldrake is not credible.

Perriwinkle · 28/01/2012 17:19

"That's fine if she reads them at home but there should be no issue with her reading these books at school too Agent. And therin lies the problem. Don't you see that? If you don't accept that it's bonkers to stop her, surely you must concede that it's dictatorial, irrational and an unfounded hysterical overreaction to what is only a book.

What are these people so afraid of?"

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I've reposted my most recent comments above AgentZigZag to see if they elicit a more sensible and reasoned response from you this time.

You started this thread by saying that you felt "uncomfortable" about your child being told not to bring a Twilight book into school because it was at odds with the christian values of the school you send her to but now you seem to be doing all you can to skirt around the issues which are the crux of the behaviour which you claim made you feel "uncomfortable".

As I said before, this goes with the territory of choosing a faith school. You have to put up or shut up - and preferbaly both.

AgentZigzag · 28/01/2012 17:52

I won't rise to your bait perri.

You can repost your comments with the insinuation that I'm too thick to understand your uber intelligent logic all you like, but the fact is, I answered your post asking you not to try and discredit my choice of school for my DD by using mental illness.

I can skirt around any issues I like.

I can take advice from MN, or not, the choice is mine.

If I want to contradict myself, it's up to me.

I don't have to put up and shut up about anything.

You don't like faith schools. I'm not going to agree with you regardless of what I wrote in my OP nearly a week ago.

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Perriwinkle · 28/01/2012 20:31

Well, having considered that little list, and given how defensive you are about faith schools Agent, I'm totally at a loss as to why you bothered starting this thread in the first place.

I dount I'm the only one either.

AgentZigzag · 28/01/2012 20:49

I'm at a loss as to why what I think about my own life bothers you perri.

I'm not here to get other peoples approval.

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Perriwinkle · 29/01/2012 13:36

Well AgentZigZag, this whole book thing clearly doesn't bother you all that much at all really so why on earth make such a fuss about it to the point that you feel the need to discuss it on a public website?

You were the one who asked "Am I being unreasonable?" in the first place and I simply told you that you were - and now you're getting all righteously indignant about it.

Go figure...

Perriwinkle · 29/01/2012 20:08

Oh, and a quick tip for a note to self Agent - don't canvass opinions from the general public if you're highly likely to be offended by the responses. Grin

NoOnesGoingToEatYourEyes · 29/01/2012 23:51

^^
Was that one of those comebacks you think of seven (and a half) hours too late to have said in real life? Grin

Perriwinkle · 30/01/2012 09:11

Yeah lol! - still worth her hearing though. She'd do well to bear it in mind in future if it's going to upset her as much as it did here - might save her from looking like a right chump another time! Grin

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