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PooGate and Judgey Pants up to my armpits

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SurroundedByPlasticCrap · 17/01/2012 17:51

Have namechanged because it's going to be pretty clear who I am.

Went to softplay this morning with my kids, dd4 and ds2. It's a preschool session so it's cheap and not very busy. It's a small family run place with an area round the back for toddlers/babies, a big area for 4+ and a separate trampoline area. Since most 5+ kids are in school, the big area is fine for the younger ones like my ds and the toddler area is full of really little crawling ones.

I usually sit on the seats between the big area and the trampolines so I can see my kids. It's usually a 1 or 2 hour session and there are a few regulars like me.

I'm rather unsociable happy to keep to myself, but some of the mums sit at a big table in front of the big soft play bit. They can see the big area and about half the trampoline area. They seem to go out for cigarettes in groups, leaving one mum at the table who I assume is responsible for the kids.

When I arrived, one of these Mums was outside with a little girl about 4 and a boy about 3, but only guessing. She was having a cigarette before going in. She sat with the big group of Mums and the kids went running in.

After a little while the boy came up to my table and asked me for one of the dc's breadsticks. I said no, as you never know if a kid has allergies etc and told him to go ask his mummy if he wanted a snack. He went off and I went back to watching my kids, the smell of him did linger and it was clear he had a dirty nappy. He came back a few minutes later saying "Mummy says it's okay if I can have one". I told him I didn't know his Mummy and he should ask her for a snack, the breadsticks belonged to my dc. He was pulling at his trousers and looked uncomfortable so I asked him if he'd had a poo, he said yes, so I told him to tell his Mummy he'd had a poo.

This time I watched him go to his Mum. She was chatting to some of the other mums and completely ignored him while he was jumping up and down and trying to speak to her. He started shouting at her, "Mummy Mummy I want you". Eventually she stood up and shouted at him, "I told you, you can have one if the lady says you can." At that point she glared at me then made a face at him and checked his nappy. So at this point I assumed she knew about his dirty nappy and she wanted me to give him a breadstick. She got up and went out for a cigarette by herself and the boy came over to me. I did just give him a breadstick as I felt sorry for him. He then asked me for a drink, I went to the cafe bit and asked for a cup of water for him. They gave him a sippy cup of water and I went back to my seat and watched my kids.

The next thing I saw was the boy running past me with nothing on his lower half, poo all over his bum and legs. The mother grabbed him, got his trousers and took him off to the toilets. A few minutes later they emerged with him dressed, she just sat back down at her seat and the boy went running off again. I could smell poo really strongly so I had a look over at the trampolines. It was all over 3 of the 6 trampolines (which are white). I told the kids who were on the other trampolines they should move away from the area until it was clean and then went and told the woman at the door, who was clearly the owner or manager.

She asked me who it was and I told her what I'd seen. She then went over to the Mum and started talking to her. The Mum got really angry and started shouting at the woman, another member of staff came over and it all got a bit heated. The woman wanted the Mum to pay a cleaning fine of £80, the mum said it wasn't her (fucking) child who made the mess and it could be cleaned with a couple of wipes. Anyway it all got rather nasty and loud. I would've left but the exit has to be released from behind the desk and the staff were both dealing with the woman.

Me and some other parents took their kids down the other end so they couldn't hear the swearing. The owner/manager woman came down and asked me again if I had seen the child taking off his nappy. I said I hadn't but I had seen him run past without a nappy on. She said they were going to close while they cleaned up and didn't know how long it was going to take. Since you pay when you leave, I paid and she was very appologetic. She said the woman had refused to pay and was getting aggressive so they asked her to leave and not come back unless she would pay the cleaning bill.

When I went out, the group of mums were all standing round the entrance. The woman had gone though. When I went past they all stared at me and made comments, bitch, etc...

I came home and have since told my dh, I was pretty judgmental, I said to him I thought she should pay the cleaning fine. It's a small business and it will cost them more than £80. He says I should've kept my mouth shut and either left or kept the kids away from the trampolines. He thinks it could've happened to anyone and I'm just being mean because the woman went out for a fag. I honestly couldn't care less if she was smoking or at the toilet, she was clearly neglecting her child's needs and wasn't watching him properly.

Dh thinks I'm mean and that maybe she can't afford to pay £80. I feel sorry for the womans kids, the kids who maybe stood in the poo and had to leave the softplay, not to mention the softplay owners.

So AIBU and a judgy meany? I don't think I am but I'm willing to be judged.

OP posts:
VikingLady · 17/01/2012 17:57

Tbh I can't see what else you could reasonably have done. YANBU.

purplepansy · 17/01/2012 17:57

YANBU, but I don't think I'd have pointed the woman out to the manager. She should have changed his nappy. Yuck. And poor kid walking around asking strangers for food and drink while his mother is outside. Makes me quite sad. Don't think she should have to pay 80 quid though - surely they clean up poo quite often at places like this? I'm guessing you won't be going back there!!

SurroundedByPlasticCrap · 17/01/2012 17:59

No I won't be going back, which is sad as the kids loved it and it was a good price.

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StellaAndFries · 17/01/2012 17:59

Personally I think YANBU. If that had been one of my kids I'd have been mortified and offered to clean the area or paid the fee.

TheMonster · 17/01/2012 18:01

Poor kid. £80 is a lot, though. Poo, puke, wee - they must expect it there.

TheMonster · 17/01/2012 18:02

Why won't you go back? In case you see the woman with the poo-child?

StellaAndFries · 17/01/2012 18:04

I suppose they charge extra as they have to close whilst cleaning.

SurroundedByPlasticCrap · 17/01/2012 18:06

I won't go back as the group of mums were really frightening and swore at me in front of my dc. I just don't want to put myself in that situation again.

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ENormasSnob · 17/01/2012 18:08

Yanbu

OriginalJamie · 17/01/2012 18:10

Nice clientele. Woman sounds like a lazy presumptious cow. I would judge, oh yes.

TheMonster · 17/01/2012 18:10

Yeah I wouldn't want to bump into them again either.

Backtobedlam · 17/01/2012 18:13

YANBU, there wasn't anything else you could have done. I think the centre were being a bit OTT demanding she pay. Most places we've been to have occasionally marked off an area due to poo, wee, vomit, but it's to be expected with children potty training, or too young to realise they are poorly.

boredandrestless · 17/01/2012 18:16

I would have done exactly the same as you.

I agree £80 is a lot but when you factor in lost business whilst they were shut it's probably quite reasonable.

boredandrestless · 17/01/2012 18:17

I bet if the mum had gone across to the staff, absolutely mortified and apologetic, they wouldn't have asked for the fee. Leaving it all over 3 trampolines and not saying anything though - Shock

Fo0ffyShmo0ffer · 17/01/2012 18:20

Yanbu

whatstheetiquette · 17/01/2012 18:20

I don't really see what you could have done differently. She sounds like a horrible mum - she didn't care that her DS was covered in poo. She didn't care if he was hungry or thirsty either. The poor child took off his own nappy because he was clearly uncomfortable and that meant the softplay got dirty. Which is just another thing to add to the list of things that she doesn't care about. Sounds like her friends are just like her if they called you a bitch.

I wouldn't go back as the group of mums were so aggressive.

GrownUp2012 · 17/01/2012 18:21

I think you did the right thing and that the other mum (and the rest of them) were being very unreasonable behaving in that manner in front of children. How awful to check a nappy, see it's filled and then go for a cigarette instead of changing the child. Even if the fee is a bit exorbitant on the soft play centre's part, she was being horrid.

Magneto · 17/01/2012 18:21

I think I would have done the same as you except that when asked who did it, I probably would have said I didn't know because it is clear from the type of woman and mother she is that it was never going to end well I feel very sorry for her poor children Sad

ohbugrit · 17/01/2012 18:22

TABBY, she's a clatty horror.

ohbugrit · 17/01/2012 18:22

YANBU. OOPS.

SuePurblybilt · 17/01/2012 18:23

Give it a month and they won't know you from Lady Gaga: I bet they have rucks all the time if they act like that. Or they will all boycott it now she's banned - I don't see that you need to stay away.

OriginalJamie · 17/01/2012 18:23

I am smoking a faaaag

backwardLFDTpossom · 17/01/2012 18:25

YANBU and it's a shame that you are intimidated enough not to go back. Poor kid. :(

KenDoddsDadsDog · 17/01/2012 18:33

I feel sorry for the child as bet he gets into trouble at home now. Hungry, left in a dirty nappy poor soul.

SecretNutellaFix · 17/01/2012 18:35

Locally there is a fine for £100 for anyone soiling a taxi if anyone pukes in it.
£80 is not an unreasonable cleaning fee considering the spread of the mess.

YANBU. I'd go back- fuck the bitchy comments. If the shit had got all over their kids clothes, they would have been happy, wouldn't they?

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