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PooGate and Judgey Pants up to my armpits

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SurroundedByPlasticCrap · 17/01/2012 17:51

Have namechanged because it's going to be pretty clear who I am.

Went to softplay this morning with my kids, dd4 and ds2. It's a preschool session so it's cheap and not very busy. It's a small family run place with an area round the back for toddlers/babies, a big area for 4+ and a separate trampoline area. Since most 5+ kids are in school, the big area is fine for the younger ones like my ds and the toddler area is full of really little crawling ones.

I usually sit on the seats between the big area and the trampolines so I can see my kids. It's usually a 1 or 2 hour session and there are a few regulars like me.

I'm rather unsociable happy to keep to myself, but some of the mums sit at a big table in front of the big soft play bit. They can see the big area and about half the trampoline area. They seem to go out for cigarettes in groups, leaving one mum at the table who I assume is responsible for the kids.

When I arrived, one of these Mums was outside with a little girl about 4 and a boy about 3, but only guessing. She was having a cigarette before going in. She sat with the big group of Mums and the kids went running in.

After a little while the boy came up to my table and asked me for one of the dc's breadsticks. I said no, as you never know if a kid has allergies etc and told him to go ask his mummy if he wanted a snack. He went off and I went back to watching my kids, the smell of him did linger and it was clear he had a dirty nappy. He came back a few minutes later saying "Mummy says it's okay if I can have one". I told him I didn't know his Mummy and he should ask her for a snack, the breadsticks belonged to my dc. He was pulling at his trousers and looked uncomfortable so I asked him if he'd had a poo, he said yes, so I told him to tell his Mummy he'd had a poo.

This time I watched him go to his Mum. She was chatting to some of the other mums and completely ignored him while he was jumping up and down and trying to speak to her. He started shouting at her, "Mummy Mummy I want you". Eventually she stood up and shouted at him, "I told you, you can have one if the lady says you can." At that point she glared at me then made a face at him and checked his nappy. So at this point I assumed she knew about his dirty nappy and she wanted me to give him a breadstick. She got up and went out for a cigarette by herself and the boy came over to me. I did just give him a breadstick as I felt sorry for him. He then asked me for a drink, I went to the cafe bit and asked for a cup of water for him. They gave him a sippy cup of water and I went back to my seat and watched my kids.

The next thing I saw was the boy running past me with nothing on his lower half, poo all over his bum and legs. The mother grabbed him, got his trousers and took him off to the toilets. A few minutes later they emerged with him dressed, she just sat back down at her seat and the boy went running off again. I could smell poo really strongly so I had a look over at the trampolines. It was all over 3 of the 6 trampolines (which are white). I told the kids who were on the other trampolines they should move away from the area until it was clean and then went and told the woman at the door, who was clearly the owner or manager.

She asked me who it was and I told her what I'd seen. She then went over to the Mum and started talking to her. The Mum got really angry and started shouting at the woman, another member of staff came over and it all got a bit heated. The woman wanted the Mum to pay a cleaning fine of £80, the mum said it wasn't her (fucking) child who made the mess and it could be cleaned with a couple of wipes. Anyway it all got rather nasty and loud. I would've left but the exit has to be released from behind the desk and the staff were both dealing with the woman.

Me and some other parents took their kids down the other end so they couldn't hear the swearing. The owner/manager woman came down and asked me again if I had seen the child taking off his nappy. I said I hadn't but I had seen him run past without a nappy on. She said they were going to close while they cleaned up and didn't know how long it was going to take. Since you pay when you leave, I paid and she was very appologetic. She said the woman had refused to pay and was getting aggressive so they asked her to leave and not come back unless she would pay the cleaning bill.

When I went out, the group of mums were all standing round the entrance. The woman had gone though. When I went past they all stared at me and made comments, bitch, etc...

I came home and have since told my dh, I was pretty judgmental, I said to him I thought she should pay the cleaning fine. It's a small business and it will cost them more than £80. He says I should've kept my mouth shut and either left or kept the kids away from the trampolines. He thinks it could've happened to anyone and I'm just being mean because the woman went out for a fag. I honestly couldn't care less if she was smoking or at the toilet, she was clearly neglecting her child's needs and wasn't watching him properly.

Dh thinks I'm mean and that maybe she can't afford to pay £80. I feel sorry for the womans kids, the kids who maybe stood in the poo and had to leave the softplay, not to mention the softplay owners.

So AIBU and a judgy meany? I don't think I am but I'm willing to be judged.

OP posts:
QueenPodling · 17/01/2012 20:50

YANBU, and the centre was not BU to ask the mother to contribute. My Sil works at a large park and they spent quite a bit of money on a new soft play centre. They had to close it again within weeks because the cleaning and maintenance was too much - used to find pooey nappies in the ballpit and for dome reason, open cups of wee all over. Stuff that was clearly parent related, not just 'accidents'

QueenPodling · 17/01/2012 20:52

Some not dome.

crashdoll · 17/01/2012 20:55

YADNBU! That poor little boy.

It's not U that they asked her to pay £80. It wasn't as if he had an accident. There was poo everywhere because the mum wasn't interested in her own child.

Scheherezade · 17/01/2012 21:36

Poor baby :(

maddening · 17/01/2012 21:58

yanbu - awful all round!

olgaga · 17/01/2012 22:06

I hated soft play areas, there always seemed to be people who treated it as childcare (without the care). I'm just pleased I will never have to set foot in another, and I don't blame you for not wanting to go back there, at least for a good while.

YANBU. Yuck! Think it's actually your DH who's being the judgey one here.

SurroundedByPlasticCrap · 17/01/2012 22:27

Dh has said sorry, he had a shitty day at work and was taking it out on me. Not that that's an excuse but he's generally pretty pleasant so I've forgiven him this time.

The SP is a good one, it's really clean and the staff are pleasant. Most importantly it doesn't smell bad, smells like baking usually. They don't sell chips in the cafe and it's mostly home made stuff.

As some of you have said, I do think they would've let her off with the cleaning charge if she'd gone over and told them straight away. As it was they didn't know where the boy had been and would need to shut the whole place, not just the trampoline area.

I'm going to leave it a few weeks and go back on a different morning. I feel if I don't go back, the business will loose my custom and that's not fair as they're nice people. Ds fell over my feet once as he walked away from me, he landed on his face and his tooth went into his lip. The staff gave him a cool pack, some ice cubes to suck and a free cookie. They filled out and accident report and then they phoned me that afternoon to ask if he was okay.

I can't stop thinking about those poor kids though, what a shame having that as a mother.

OP posts:
slowburner · 17/01/2012 22:31

If you are that worried, which I would be too, ring someone, tell someone, stand up and be counted. Tell your HV, your GP, social services, the woman will probably think it is the soft play place that has grassed her up and not you.

Would i do that. Yes. Would I go back to the sp without a friend? No.

bobbledunk · 18/01/2012 01:26

YADNBU, what a disgusting, filthy woman, the other hags sound equally vile.

lisaro · 18/01/2012 02:53

Dh thinks I'm mean and that maybe she can't afford to pay £80
Well she could give up smoking! Frankly they just sound like a vile set of skanks, as my teenagers would say.

MollyMurphy · 18/01/2012 03:13

Go ahead OP and hike those pants up to your nose - that woman was being a disgusting, neglectful cow. She and her little pack of sheep were totally out of line. Poor kid - how sad to see someone treat their child with such disrespect Sad.

Mya2403 · 18/01/2012 03:18

Poor kid his mother sounds like a cunt good for nothing chav.

girlsyearapart · 18/01/2012 03:41

Yanbu op.
Think it's true though that the soft play wouldn't have asked for that money if the mother had been nicer about the whole thing.

My nephew did this twice in two different soft plays. He was about 4 & pooed then spread it all over..
My sister was thoroughly mortified & got in there herself with the cleaning products..

The other time was at a soft play party meaning the party had to end.
My sister bought the girls mum cinema vouchers & popcorn so she could have another treat another day & again was horrified by her ds behaviour.

On neither occasion did the places ask for money.

My dn was having a bit of a reaction about his new baby sister we think..

CamberwickGreen · 18/01/2012 10:23

going out for a fag - how common. You neednt say anything else

:)

MmeLindor. · 18/01/2012 10:36

YANBU

Glad your DH has seen sense.

fuzzpig · 18/01/2012 18:31

QueenPodling - open cups of wee? WTAF?

RainboweBrite · 18/01/2012 19:28

Poor you! I think you should inform the centre about the intimidating group of mums, so they will get banned too, if they have the nerve to go back. I am glad that you are going to keep going, as you and your DC shouldn't have to miss out when you have done nothing wrong.

otchayaniye · 18/01/2012 19:48

ynabu at all.

but yabu for eating breadsticks!

aldiwhore · 18/01/2012 19:58

I think that had the other woman been a bit more on the ball and responsible a cleaning charge shouldn't apply. £80?? Thats a lot of money. It is also something that most soft play centres account for.

YANBU though SurroundedByPlasticCrap you didn't do anything wrong at all.

I was in a 'Brewsters' a few weeks back (not through choice) and some bloody woman had not only allowed her child to poo in the sink, but when I walked in the toilets I couldn't quite understand how it was possible to get so much poo everywhere. Sodden dirty nappy on the floor, bits of pooey tissue, pooh in the sink, great big blobs of the fucking stuff and all over her child.

I've had a pooh crisis in my time (the children, not me) and sure I may have got some on my sleeve, but everywhere??? Blurgh.

Must have been the same woman SBPC because when I told a staff member and they confronted this woman, she started effing and jeffing and shouting... it was at that point themanagement started talking about cleaning charges, more to get rid of her than anything else!!

celebmum · 18/01/2012 20:43

YANBU! Poor little kid Sad

You so did the right thing, i would have done exactly the same, infact i'd have gone one step further if im honest and said something to the mother herself and embarrassed her infront of her 'mates'. Theres no excuse for dirty behaviour like that IMO. I learnt a long time ago that women like that and their 'mates' are all bark and no bite. Don't let a few namecallers put you and your kids off from doing what you enjoy.

ArtexMonkey · 18/01/2012 20:55

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thatboysmum · 18/01/2012 21:06

Shock I honestly can't understand people like that and it really makes me bloody angry. YADNBU and I would definately go back especially as you and your children liked it there, those places are hard to find! Don't let that lazy disgusting woman and her pathetic friends ruin it for you all. Poor kids!

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